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To: RnMomof7

That does not say that one is saved by works does it?


No it does not, but I fail to see that the scriptures you provide makes any argument against the scripture I provided.

If I depended on my works to be saved I would be lost, on the other hand if I say I am saved but deny every thing Jesus said I would be lost.

So I believe it would be best to just let God do the judging as I am not fit to do that.

The Goats are condemned , not because they did not work, but because they had never repented and believed>>>>>>>>>>

That could be but that is not what Jesus said.

They were not sheep because they did the work that God had ordained for them, they did the work because they were the sheep.

That could also be, but again is not the words Jesus used.

Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Why would I need to know them by their fruits? could it be because they are going to lie me?

If some preacher comes to me who will deny any obligation of helping his neighbor, I will know him by his fruits.


209 posted on 06/16/2015 10:31:37 AM PDT by ravenwolf (t)
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To: ravenwolf

We have an insistent catholic on this thread who is unable to capture the essence of James regarding works to prove faith. The key is to discern of which perspective, man’s or God’s seeing proof James addresses. Clearly from the text surrounding the questioned phrase we know James is referring to how man can know if another man’s profession of faiths is alive or dead ... in the works of the man is the key TO MEN. Outward behavior is how men discern. God sees the inward parts.


210 posted on 06/16/2015 10:44:04 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: ravenwolf
No it does not, but I fail to see that the scriptures you provide makes any argument against the scripture I provided.

Of course you do not

1Cor 1:18For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

241 posted on 06/16/2015 2:24:59 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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