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Wisdom Cries Out...On Stoning The Duggars
billrandles/wordpress ^ | 05-23-15 | Bill Randles

Posted on 05/22/2015 8:53:13 AM PDT by pastorbillrandles

Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets: She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying, How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge? Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.(Proverbs 1:20-23)

I believe that one of the ways Wisdom from God cries out in the streets, is through notable current events. Through the media culture we are instantly and constantly apprised of current events and developments ; be it in sports, politics, entertainment, or news, there is often a message beneath the event, for Him who has ears to hear.

The Duggar family have become a popular cultural phenomenon through the reality television shown “19 Kids and Counting”. Hundreds of Thousands of Americans have followed the openly Christian, homeschooling family through their daily routine of feeding, shopping, chores, building a large house for the family, family prayer, countless births, courtships,proposals and even marriages.

There has been something fascinating to many, about this insight into a middle American culture of large families, Christian values, chores, sharing and respect that many Americans and even others, thought was long gone.The Duggars have been a larger than life witness to an entire subculture that is very much alive and even thriving in much of America.

But there is a new twist to the story.

Evidently the oldest of the 19 children, Joshua, "had to confess recently to molesting some of his sisters and a family friend, 12 years ago, when he was 14 -15 years old. He has expressed his regret and stepped down from his position on the Family Research Council.

What can we hear Wisdom saying from this unfortunate episode?

1) That the True Witness of Christ is not a “perfect family” but Redemption. The subculture that the Duggars spring from is straight out of developments within evangelical Christianity in the 1970s and 1980s.Born again Christians rejected the “anti-child” , ZPG,(zero population growth) ethos of their time. There was also a tremendous evangelical reaction to the liberal indoctrination and usurpation of the public schools, resulting in the Christian school and Homeschool movement.

Out of this sprang a vast new emphasis on family, discipline, the Biblical role of the Husband and Wife, biblical work ethic, the rejection of the dating culture in favor of courting, and the attempt to protect the children from worldliness in the toxic culture.

I confess, in the interest of full disclosure, that this is very much something I whole heartedly agree with, and see as positive.

However it can lead to an unfortunate emphasis on the external . The temptation is to think that doing ‘family’ just right, and being a perfect example of a Christian family, each kid in submission and everything in order, is the ideal christian witness.

The problem is original sin.Even if we deliver our children out of the abominable public schools, and get them to read the classical literature, and teach them to work hard…children are still sinners.

There will be sin, and there is a Christian way to deal with it. The witness is Redemption, not external perfection.

The Duggars did deal with their sinning son, he was exposed, he confessed his sin, and a policeman was even called in, (who gave him a stern lecture and a warning), and years later when his future wife and her parents were introduced to the family, Josh told them openly of his sin and that he had been helped by God to overcome it.

“Twelve years ago, as a young teenager, I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret,” Duggar said in a statement posted on Facebook on Thursday. “I hurt others, including my family and close friends. I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation.

“We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing, and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life.”

What more can you do? Should Duggar be considered a danger? Should he be made a Pariah? But for those of us who have forgotten what the true witness if Christ is, this will be a severe trial.

2) Who says you are supposed to put your family on Television? I think Wisdom might be warning us of the dangers of setting ourselves up as an example. I realize that “we are the light of the world” and the “Salt of the earth” but I doubt that meant we should present our entire family on television for years on end.

I cringe when I see the Duggars and the Duck Dynasty clan, because I know that even the finest families are composed of sinners, and I also know that those who would viscerally hate all that these traditional families stand for, the sexually deviant, and the Feminists, would absolutely love to uncover “dirt” on either one of them to discredit the idyllic scenes of family prayer and faith and the public statements against the cultural transgressions.

As a Pastor and Blogger I do live a somewhat public life, however on a very severely limited scale. I wouldn’t want my little ones or my grandchildren to have to live their tender, developing years on television for all to see. If I am attacked that is one thing, but to expose my wife and children to attack, is unthinkable.

3) The reaction to this incident reveals all we need to know about the Duggars friends and critics.

There are some Christians and moralists who are already savaging Josh Duggar. They believe that he has damaged the gospel, by serving on the Family Research Council,knowing of his previous sin, or by being on Television at all.

But would anyone want their sins from the age of 14 to be held against them twelve years later? Is there not Redemption? Didn’t Jesus die for his sins?

The sexual deviants are rejoicing! So too are the rest of the Anti-Christians. They are so happy that ,, that “Holier than thou”, “perfect little family” have been shamed and their nakedness has been exposed! They love to see the dirty laundry of a pro-life, pro-family, pro-American Christian family. The Washingtom Post online article featured a video clip featuring Josh Duggar calling for Marriage as being between one man and one woman, as if his previous transgressions nullifies everything he has said.

What is their answer?Is it that there is no use protesting sin, we should just succumb to every evil proclivity? I would rather live among people like the Duggars, who though imperfectly, tried to stem the tide of evil in their own families, than among those who just “normalize” perversion as though it is inevitable anyway.

Then there are those of us who are grieved. Grieved for the Duggar family and the exposure of their shame. Grieved to be reminded that even in the most sanitized, and seemingly protected environment, Sin still destroys and rears its ugly head. We are grieved for the young woman whom Josh touched inappropriately 12 years ago, and the willingness of sinners to re-open any wounds that have been healed.

If those who rejoiced over the Duggars shame ever thought about it, they would realize that the same God who allowed for the exposure of Josh’s sin, will one day call each of them to account for their sins. Jesus told us, “There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed, and nothing whispered in the ear that shall not be shouted from the roof tops”.

4) This little episode is a heavy warning about the power and danger of sin, and the fact that neither homeschooling, courting, manners, morals and ethics, are any substitute for the need of full Redemption through the blood of Jesus. All of us are sinners, we all need grace and cannot afford to throw stones at anyone. Being reconciled to God through the death and resurrection of Jesus is the only antidote to sin.

Please pray for the Duggars and their family. Pray also for the outspoken deviants and moral anarchists who rejoice in their shame. Pray for the Moralists who are now tempted to hate this family, for their failure in the past, and for having the audacity to present their family as some kind of testimony.

The Lord is gracious, and full of compassion; slow to anger, and of great mercy. The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works. All thy works shall praise thee, O Lord; and thy saints shall bless thee. They shall speak of the glory of thy kingdom, and talk of thy power; To make known to the sons of men his mighty acts, and the glorious majesty of his kingdom. Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations. The Lord upholdeth all that fall, and raiseth up all those that be bowed down. The eyes of all wait upon thee; and thou givest them their meat in due season.(Psalm 145:8-15)


TOPICS: Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: duggars; hypocrites; redemption; scandal
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To: Black Agnes

Honestly you are projecting something from your own life onto this situation. Maybe you need help


41 posted on 05/22/2015 12:03:56 PM PDT by happyhomemaker (Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer. Rom 12:12)
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To: MD Expat in PA

I was talking about the milieu which the Duggars came from, not the Duggars themselves.


42 posted on 05/22/2015 12:07:42 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: Oliviaforever

Not true. I only said that this whole affair in its entirety is an unfortunate episode. And it is.


43 posted on 05/22/2015 12:09:28 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: happyhomemaker

Really?

Is that the BEST you can do?


44 posted on 05/22/2015 12:10:47 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

I have never argued for no consequences to any offender.


45 posted on 05/22/2015 12:11:51 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: NorthstarMom

Thanks Pastor, you bring up a good point about pastoral naiveté. I want you to know that in no way am I advocating such a simplistic naiveté. We too have a jail ministry and insist that everyone know everything about any offenders that happen to visit our church. We will even follow them into the bathroom if we have one visit with such a record. Protection of the innocent is paramount, and in no way did my article promote such. Your point is well taken and thanks for addressing it respectly.


47 posted on 05/22/2015 12:16:18 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: pastorbillrandles
I was talking about the milieu which the Duggars came from, not the Duggars themselves.

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48 posted on 05/22/2015 12:22:43 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: gdani

I’m sorry, but “all” the kids does include Josh. Why would you think otherwise?


49 posted on 05/22/2015 1:17:33 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Oliviaforever

Olivia, you are getting on my last nerve.

You appear on Freeper threads like Death. with his scythe, hacking away.


50 posted on 05/22/2015 1:57:45 PM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: Black Agnes; gdani

You too!!!!!
Last nerve!


51 posted on 05/22/2015 1:59:54 PM PDT by Guenevere (If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do........Psalms 11:3)
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To: Guenevere

You still haven’t answered if you’d let Josh babysit your grandchildren, unsupervised....

Yes?

Or no.


52 posted on 05/22/2015 2:00:33 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: pastorbillrandles

Pastor Bill, I enjoy your posts, but I’m not in agreement with everything you say here.

I can’t say I’m very grieved for the parents. From what I have read, they sent Josh away for a summer job, apparently figuring that was sufficient punishment, and then let him move right back into the house with his sisters. I consider that very irresponsible. But hey, they had a TV show to produce. /s

A friend of the family who was with the State Police at the time helped them cover this thing up. That friend is now in jail on child pornography charges.

It’s a mistake to imply that the Duggars are just another mainstream Christian family. They are not. They’re members of the Gothard cult. I don’t use the word lightly, either. I think any faith which tells the women how to wear their hair; to dress modestly so the men won’t be tempted; to “keep sweet”, etc. IS cultlike.

Also, it’s a known fact that Gothard is a serial abuser of young girls.

I’ll be honest, I’ve never much liked the Duggars. When threads were posted here praising them, I just stayed away. But the family has always creeped me out somewhat.

I’m seeing a lot of concern and worry about Josh Duggar and his parents. If you ask me, that kind of thing should be focused on the innocent girls-—his sisters-—whom he molested.


53 posted on 05/22/2015 2:16:55 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: gdani; pastorbillrandles

That policeman who gave him a “stern lecture” is now in jail on child porn charges. He was a friend of the father, who knew he could help cover it all up.


54 posted on 05/22/2015 2:18:26 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: pastorbillrandles
tried to stem the tide of evil in their own families, than among those who just “normalize” perversion as though it is inevitable anyway.

Did they? At the minimum, they needed to keep Josh away from little girls. That wasn't done.

55 posted on 05/22/2015 2:20:27 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Leaning towards Cruz or Walker in 2016. No Jeb. No Graham.)
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To: Wiser now
"The article states that all the kids involved received counseling."

I wonder who did the counseling, though. Bill Goddard, the serial sex abuser?

56 posted on 05/22/2015 2:22:34 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: Guenevere

Sorry, but I will never defend the actions of a child molester.


57 posted on 05/22/2015 2:36:47 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

No one on this thread is defending the action of a child molester


58 posted on 05/22/2015 8:12:15 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Thanks Catherine. I didn’t know th Duggars were Gothardites. This is why we post, to promote civil discussion and to learn. I am glad you enjoy most of my posts, and I hope you don’t think I am defending the indefensible. Please pray for all involved and for repentance and healing to the victims.


59 posted on 05/22/2015 8:15:07 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: pastorbillrandles

“The sexual deviants are rejoicing!”

Josh Duggar is at best a sexual deviant.

At worst he is a child rapist.

Both of which should be condemned harshly.


60 posted on 05/22/2015 8:46:31 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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