“He had ALREADY chosen us in Him.”
Ah, but did he choose what you had for breakfast this morning? Or if someone chooses to commit murder, did God make that choice for them?
That’s what we are really arguing about. Not election or predestination, but absolutely predetermination, where free will in all matters is only an illusion.
It is fruitless (according to God's direction and apparently His plan) to argue with someone who will not acknowledge what the Scripture teaches. I set out a number of texts which conclusively tell you that God is managing your every move. Yes, what you had for breakfast. You argue back with philosophy...the same dead philosophy of unbelievers. There are dozens of episodes in the Scriptures describing God causing men to sin, but yet He remains innocent of sin. How does He do that? He is God. There is, according to Him, nothing unjust in Him. But, you are assessing His character according to rules you have established...not Him. I must go to work.