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A Mathematical Proof for the Existence of the One God
Vivificat - From Contemplation to Action ^ | 5 May 2015 | ن Teófilo de Jesús ن (@vivificat)

Posted on 05/05/2015 10:17:51 AM PDT by Teófilo

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To: Gideon7
His conception cannot be labeled or captured in any finite set of symbols that fully describes Him.

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The "Artist formerly known as Prince"

All kidding aside.

I actually understood some of what you posted.

If I may.

The fact that we "know" there are things we can't "Know" given the limitations of our "logical systems" AND what we do "Know" is wholly incomplete. Therefore, we can't use "Logic" as we know it, to explain everything.

41 posted on 05/05/2015 5:12:49 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: ETL


"Well, the math certainly appears to be in order. "

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Yes it does (and I double-checked it on my calculator before the battery went dead).


42 posted on 05/05/2015 5:18:33 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Zeneta

“The fact that we “know” there are things we can’t “Know” given the limitations of our “logical systems” AND what we do “Know” is wholly incomplete. Therefore, we can’t use “Logic” as we know it, to explain everything.”

Yes, and there are some mathematical proofs that prove that we will never be able to prove a specific conjecture.

So, coupled with Godels general incompleteness theorem. We have theorems which can be proved, theorems which can’t be proved, theorems that prove some theorems cant be proved, so are there theorems that prove that there are not theorems to prove some theorems, etc. etc......


43 posted on 05/05/2015 6:16:33 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Zeneta
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44 posted on 05/05/2015 6:37:55 PM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse OÂ’Leary)
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To: ForYourChildren

Yes, and there are some mathematical proofs that prove that we will never be able to prove a specific conjecture.


Incompleteness to say the least.

Yet, the default position among the secularist’s is to say, “just because we don’t know NOW, doesn’t mean we won’t ever know”. “That is science, after all”.

In the meantime, just accept what we do know even though it may be revised as we go along. No reason to fall into some “Faith system”.

Nevermind that in order to satisfy the real challenges they face, they have invoked any number of “theories” that are unprovable. Multi-worlds, Multi-Verse and any number of “alternate Reality” scenarios.

Why is it called “DARK MATTER”? or “DARK ENERGY”?

Because they have absolutely no CLUE.


45 posted on 05/05/2015 6:40:28 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Teófilo
If God exists in the understanding, we could imagine Him to be greater by existing in reality.

...Therefore He also exists in reality. Therefore He exists in the full sense. Good article. I'll index it on my profile for future reference. Thank you.

46 posted on 05/05/2015 8:44:56 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Zeneta
Is math abstract?

Yes.

Numbers and equations are universal concepts (Universals) that only exist in minds, except for one[ness], or unity, which is an essential characteristic of each and every individual thing.

We know that number does not inhere in individual things, because the same object can be considered to be 1 of 5 or 2 or 12, etc.

The (universal) concepts themselves (like "5") are not observable or measurable.

These universal concepts have been found to conform to external realities, and are believed by most people to be true regardless of time or place.

Since concepts exist in minds, eternal, universal concepts would have to be grounded in an eternal Mind.

47 posted on 05/06/2015 6:57:24 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: bjorn14

Clearly, we’re not talking about the certainty that comes from faith as infused by the Holy Spirit. That involves another set of distinct operations and consequences.

This is an exercise on how the natural mind, without the assistance of faith, can reason out the existence of God.

~Theo


48 posted on 05/06/2015 9:01:23 AM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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