[LurkingSince'98]

http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap060500.htm#ap060502

I’m working, but I believe they are one in the same - don’t have time to check.

[kinsman redeemer]

I think you cited the wrong source.
The one I posted above is correct.

Do you have a copy of Gruden’s Systematic Theology?
http://www.waynegrudem.com/systematic-theology/

Would you like a copy? Are you interested in studying what he says about the subject?

I’d like to have a fact-based (What does Scripture say?) debate on the subject of Transubstantion. I promise to keep to the subject and stick to good hermeunitical guidelines.

Are you interested?