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To: Steelfish

“Petrine infallibility”

Repeating this claim is silly. It wasn’t true the first time you posted it Steelfish.

There isn’t a single Christian that is infallible, but we serve a perfect God.


12 posted on 04/28/2015 7:14:27 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You misread. The Bible was put together by Petrine authority after hundreds of years of sorting out various scriptural fragments. Maybe it will help if you study historical texts and traditions. If you think the Catholic Church was not infallible, then please do not refer to the Bible since maybe our Church faltered in sorting out the valid Biblical texts.

Protestantism today is a joke and a caricature. It has disintegrated into bits and pieces with every Tom, Dick, and Harry and Foursquare Church pastor purporting to teach the Word of God.This is the rubbish the Reformation spawned and why any number of eminent Protestant theologies have come around toward dumping this heresy and embraced Catholicism.

Dr. David Anders speaks for a number of them.

“By the time I finished my Ph.D., I had completely revised my understanding of the Catholic Church. I saw that her sacramental doctrine, her view of salvation, her veneration of Mary and the saints, and her claims to authority were all grounded in Scripture, in the oldest traditions, and in the plain teaching of Christ and the apostles.”

“I also realized that Protestantism was a confused mass of inconsistencies and tortured logic. Not only was Protestant doctrine untrue, it bred contention, and could not even remain unchanged.”

Of course, we are not quoting here the great Catholic theologians in the traditions of the early Church fathers (theologians) like Augustine, Aquinas, Neman, and Benedict.

The real problem with Protestantism is that it thrives in shallow waters. This is why we have crooks like Joel Osteen and Creflo Dollar because of the low -information congregations they attract, not unlike the local neighborhood Protestant churches.


14 posted on 04/28/2015 7:40:09 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
There isn’t a single Christian that is infallible, but we serve a perfect God.

Nor is the pope as an individual. What is infallible is Jesus Christ working through the church that he established. Thus the pronouncements of the pope are only infallible when he officially exercises his office on questions of faith and morals. It is the office, not the person, which is infallible. God is quite capable of preventing his church from teaching error, no? If not then we have no way to know what should be included in the Bible in the first place.

15 posted on 04/28/2015 7:42:22 PM PDT by Petrosius
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