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The Magisterium of the Catholic Church
CatholicEssentials.net ^ | 2008 | CatholicEssentials.net

Posted on 04/27/2015 7:15:21 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I don’t think you are even aware of what few dogmas the Catholic Church holds. Otherwise, you would not have said what you said.


61 posted on 04/28/2015 5:51:24 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ealgeone

Done, it is the same. Possible, not definite.


62 posted on 04/28/2015 5:59:00 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: verga

what is the word used in Greek and is it a noun, verb, tense, voice, preposition, etc?


63 posted on 04/28/2015 6:00:20 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

1 Cor 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring [it] into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.


64 posted on 04/28/2015 6:17:24 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: verga

It’s light years ahead of “You’re wrong”.


65 posted on 04/28/2015 6:19:15 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ealgeone

Romans 11:20-21 Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either.


66 posted on 04/28/2015 6:20:29 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: ealgeone

Romans 11:24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree?


67 posted on 04/28/2015 6:21:45 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: metmom

Hey if thinking that helps the prots get through the dark scary night....


68 posted on 04/28/2015 6:28:38 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: ealgeone

You were given the correct translation and exegesis, as opposed to the eisegesis prots engage in, feel free to ignore the truth and have the last word.


69 posted on 04/28/2015 6:35:53 PM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: metmom
Carry The Light (with you, wherever you go)


70 posted on 04/28/2015 6:46:00 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: verga

Due you understand the concept of context in reading the Word??


71 posted on 04/28/2015 7:16:38 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: verga
Nope...I was given nothing from you on 1 John 5:13. You provided an English dictionary definition. I'm asking you to show your greek work....if you did it at all.
72 posted on 04/28/2015 7:17:49 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide
I am totally aware, and wasn't referring to ‘current’ Dogma. I actually chose to be a Catholic as a young adult (after the age of 18), after careful and deep personal consideration. My parents never had me Christened/baptised, and my background was fairly eclectic. My parents both had tough lives, for different reasons, and I didn't have a family tradition / legacy to draw from. I did a lot of soul searching before making my decision.
73 posted on 04/28/2015 7:35:31 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: CynicalBear
>>Rome is not shy about giving herself power..<< And in many instances usurping the place of Chris

Catholicism usurps NO power not granted to her by Christ....

74 posted on 04/28/2015 7:35:35 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: ealgeone

“Simple message” - Hey - there’s no money in that!


75 posted on 04/28/2015 7:57:22 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Then I’m sorry you left the One, True Church with a faulty knowledge of dogma.

Dogma does not ever change nor get invented as something “new” or “current”.


76 posted on 04/28/2015 7:58:09 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: headsonpikes

True, but we didn’t see many rich apostles either!


77 posted on 04/28/2015 8:13:22 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide
I never left the One True Church, but I am sincerely and honestly grateful for your concern. There are really only a few true Dogmas that we can understand as human beings. One of the most important IMHO, from a Christian perspective, is that God's forgiveness and compassion is beyond our comprehension.

We are all fallible, including the Pope, all priests, and anyone human. When my father died several years ago I arranged for a Catholic mass (he was an alter boy, went to Catholic schools, and despite having a violently abusive ‘Catholic’ father, had retained a very gentle part of his soul). In the middle of the mass, when my sister and I brought the host and wine to the priest, he leaned over to me and asked “aren't you forgetting something?”. He was referring to the monetary contribution I told him I would give the Parish for helping send off my father. He did this in the middle of the mass, and for the entirety of the rest of the mass for my father I sat there berating myself for not knowing I should have given him a check along with the host. That incident is what I remember from my father's funeral, more than anything.

It was ridiculous, and un-Christian, and exemplifies how fallible and ‘human’ we all are. I gave him a check after the mass, and it was for much more than he expected or probably imagined. He was grateful, and I have no ill will or hard feelings.

My point is that IMHO we just aren't sophisticated enough to comprehend or know ‘the Truth’ about all things, no matter who we are or what our designation is. God is beyond us, but with us and in us.

78 posted on 04/28/2015 8:22:13 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: ealgeone

This is laughable coming from a prot. “Is” still means “is” as well.


79 posted on 04/29/2015 4:54:06 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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To: ealgeone

Your degree is in ....?


80 posted on 04/29/2015 4:54:38 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playing chess with pigeons,.)
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