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To: Grateful2God
How can a person call themselves a follower of Jesus, and not do good works.

Hello!!! That is exactly my point. That what I was saying, and it's not even a matter of making myself do it. It's the natural outflowing of the work of the Holy Spirit in a person's life. There are those to whom Jesus will say *when you did it to the least of those His brothers, you did it to Me*, and they'll wonder when they did that.

It's those who brag on their works or appeal to them who don't make it.

For God's sake, I am so sick and tired of the "love your neighbor as yourself" being left out of the equation, and people deciding who is saved and who is not, as if they were God, and either Bible thumping or gloating at other people they think are not saved, or born again, or whatever.

Who's leaving it out of the equation and how?

And as far as deciding who is and who is not saved, that goes both ways. There are plenty of Catholics on this board who do that very thing to non-Catholics, supported by the CCC.

Don't forget to include them.

I don't know of any non-Catholic denomination who has it in their statement of faith that you have to be one of them do be saved or part of their church and yet the Catholic church in its own CCC states and I quote "Outside the Church there is no salvation"

Where's the charity, the love for our neighbor, that Christ told us was the second greatest commandment?

Telling someone the truth is the greatest love that a person can show another. Especially is you see that person on a road that Scripture indicates leads to hell.

108 posted on 04/11/2015 4:39:11 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
It's those who brag on their works or appeal to them who don't make it."

Have I boasted? When? What I do is my business. I have to account for myself. I am also not responsible for the politicians in your recent post. Nor am I responsible for the Italian stereotype. My family was not wealthy, nor influential, nor criminal, thank you.


And as far as deciding who is and who is not saved, that goes both ways. There are plenty of Catholics on this board who do that very thing to non-Catholics, supported by the CCC.

The Second Vatican Council speaks of salvation outside the Church in Lumen Gentium, nos. 14 and 16. Here are the pertinent sections from those two articles: 14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mk 16:16; Jn 3:5) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved. [. . .] 16. [. . .] Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience. Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life. Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel. She knows that it is given by Him who enlightens all men so that they may finally have life.


Telling someone the truth is the greatest love that a person can show another. Especially is you see that person on a road that Scripture indicates leads to hell.

Well-intentioned? That's between the posters and God. Some may genuinely care, and some genuinely interested in discussion; some come across as being pompous, self-aggrandizing and even gloating. Again, that's between them and God: I'm responsible for what I post.

114 posted on 04/11/2015 9:58:41 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: metmom
"Telling someone the truth is the greatest love that a person can show another. Especially is you see that person on a road that Scripture indicates leads to hell."

Then here is a chance for those who feel they are doing a good thing for us Catholics. Get together and preach the Truth here:

Silent protest, boycott greet Wiccan priestess at Iowa House

Wiccan Priestess Delivers Prayer for Iowa House

Lord knows your posts and your talent for Scripture are needed there. And I'm not being sarcastic.

117 posted on 04/11/2015 11:55:14 AM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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