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A Meditation on the Sins of the Intellect
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 04-08-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 04/09/2015 8:22:13 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: metmom

That Mariology stuff and those prayers to Mary is just sick.


21 posted on 04/09/2015 3:39:03 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: metmom
"Only the saved are before the Judgment seat of Christ and that is only for rewards for works done."

Not so. Read Matthew 25:31-46. Read especially the last two verses:

"Then he will say to them, ‘I tell all of you with certainty, since you didn’t do it for one of the least important of these, you didn’t do it for me.’ These [unrighteous] people will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.”

He's definitely dealing with both the sheep and the goats.

22 posted on 04/09/2015 6:26:03 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Seriously.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That’s the final judgment, not the judgment of the believers, who are his Bride and already with Him in heaven.


23 posted on 04/09/2015 6:40:50 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Even at the particular judgment — at the moment of our deaths, Christ can send us either to heaven or to hell or to Purgatory.


24 posted on 04/09/2015 6:43:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Not for someone who is a new creature in Christ.

The one who sins are forgiven has already passed from death to life. They are no longer under condemnation and to be away from the body is to be with Christ, where the believer is already seated with Christ in heaven.

Jesus will not damn the person He died to save who is trusting Him. He would never commit such a betrayal and breach of trust.


25 posted on 04/09/2015 6:47:45 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Your doctrine is mistaken in my opinion. No one can be saved once and for all......and then not commit sin. We are all humans and we are sinners.

I don’t think that theory holds water at all.


26 posted on 04/09/2015 6:52:22 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

OK. In that case, we need to clear up some definitions.

What is a Christian, in your opinion?

Is a Christian a follower of Christ?


27 posted on 04/09/2015 7:00:53 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Salvation
Your doctrine is mistaken in my opinion. No one can be saved once and for all......and then not commit sin. We are all humans and we are sinners.

Scripture doesn't teach that Christians, those who are saved, never commit sin.

Yes, you can be saved and still commit sin. It happens because we're human and weak.

28 posted on 04/09/2015 7:02:45 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
"And again, knowing about what Jesus suffered doesn't necessarily equate to having a personal relationship with Him and knowing Him in experience."

Each person's experience is different, as God is infinite and each person is unique. That relationship is personal and sometimes cannot be put into words. Each breath we take is an act of God's will. He is omnipresent and omniscient. Thus one should not doubt the validity of another's experience based on one's own. The Creator and the soul that thirsts for Him share a unique, and so is their Divine intimacy.

29 posted on 04/09/2015 7:56:10 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: Salvation
"...pride is at the top of the list for many."

True, and terribly difficult to overcome.

30 posted on 04/09/2015 7:59:12 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: metmom

St. Paul first called the disciples Christians in Antioch. All there were at that time were Catholics. So Catholics were the first Christians according to St. Paul.

Acts:11:26: And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.


31 posted on 04/09/2015 8:01:55 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: metmom

Acts 11 (RSV)

25 So Barnabas went to Tarsus to look for Saul;

26 and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church, and taught a large company of people; and in Antioch the disciples were for the first time called Christians.


32 posted on 04/09/2015 8:08:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Slyfox
I don't know how anyone could not take in the mystery of the Crowning of Thorns AND NOT HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST

Contemplation of the Mysteries of the Rosary (most especially the Sorrowful) and of the Way of the Cross have been a powerful road to sanctity for many of our Saints whose words are written. It's a common Thread; the road to Calvary in our lives and that of Jesus, especially when united in contemplation and prayer is efficacious for our souls and those of our brethren in humanity-and bring us closer to God.

33 posted on 04/09/2015 8:09:57 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: metmom
You have no concept of what I understand about Jesus and a relationship with Him because you can’t read my mind.

With all due respect, your post, however it was intended, came off as being a bit of a put-down.
As for this last post, I'm sorry about your perceived impression of Catholicism, and the negativity expressed in forum. The encapsulated description reflects the fullness of our beliefs so incompletely, and thus less than accurately to the reader. God bless you, and give you peace!

34 posted on 04/09/2015 8:20:43 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: metmom
"Yup, Catholic relationship with Jesus is coming groveling to Mary to beg for forgiveness from God and Jesus."

Again, judgement of another's, in this case, 1.2 billion others' relationship with / experience of God in their lives is neither accurate nor possible.

35 posted on 04/09/2015 8:28:57 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: metmom; Old Yeller
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
People beg Mary, is what I meant.

That apology should have been directed to a wider audience.
One who believes in the Church's teaching on Mary is not quite so simple, nor does it consist of "groveling." Admitting one's faults and asking for assistance in overcoming them, as well as for forgiveness is an act between the soul and God in striving to be a better person for love of him, and a desire for the salvation, not only of one's soul, but those of others, through the Mercy of God.

36 posted on 04/09/2015 8:40:34 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: metmom
Does not Revelation state that Jesus will return to judge all men? Catholics believe that we are judged in particular, that is, one-on-one when we die; Jesus' return to us as in Revelation is what we refer to add the General Judgement.
37 posted on 04/09/2015 8:46:23 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: metmom

That is not what the Catholic Church teaches. It is what you profess. Of course it would be different.


38 posted on 04/09/2015 8:49:38 PM PDT by Grateful2God (Because no word shall be impossible with God. And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord...)
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To: metmom

That is a disgusting Catholic prayer...


39 posted on 04/09/2015 8:56:11 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Salvation
Even at the particular judgment — at the moment of our deaths, Christ can send us either to heaven or to hell or to Purgatory.

Negatory on the hell and the purgatory...

THAT judgment is for Christians only...No one goes to hell...It is a cleansing...We can not enter heaven with sin...The sin at that judgment is separated from what is not sin and completely burned up...There will be no more record of that sin...Thus we enter into heaven clean...

40 posted on 04/09/2015 9:01:18 PM PDT by Iscool
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