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To: CynicalBear

Thats a lot of hearsay to argue the Bible Our Lord read is somehow not valid to you. You realize that’s not really possible, and that you have to deal with those books -— throwing them out because they don’t fit a 2015 English translation understanding of the faith is not really a good way to look at it.

You say “the Catholic Church lies”. However, you provide no facts, just accusation. Obviously, even if you don’t think Macabees is “scripture” (of course as defined by the Church or we sou;don’t have it) it clearly is there, read and reflective of the beliefs and was part of the Bible St Paul read. So, you can’t just “throw it out” and you have to deal with it. Clearly, the Tradition was to pray for the dead at the time, I don’t see Our odd telling us not to, and I see the practice as clear as day. Moreover, you provide not a shred of evidence to refute these books were part of every Protestant Bible. So, you speak of them somehow illicit, when even under St Jerome’s view they were nor. Me thinks you are in a hole and are dealing with it by keep digging lol.

Now, about that case you made earlier that the Church is pagan because it prays for the dead . . . it can’t hold up under evidence, see above on the Tradition in MAcabees (and I’m not conceding Scripture, just saying for the sake of argument these Apocrapha are simply commentary.

I think in life if we just pretend certain evidence that works against our beliefs doesn’t exist, it makes things easy, but is it worth it?

Best,


52 posted on 04/17/2015 12:08:27 AM PDT by Burkianfrombrklyn
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To: Burkianfrombrklyn
>>Thats a lot of hearsay to argue the Bible Our Lord read is somehow not valid to you.<<

Um.......what? I gave you solid evidence that the apocryphal books were NOT part of scripture and you come back with that?

Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

See that? NOT the Catholics. The Jews did NOT consider those books to be scripture. The Catholics added them.

Now I suppose you also think having a daughter is a disgrace as it says in your apocrypha? How about burning fish hearts to chase away demons? Do you also do that? Maybe smearing fish guts on someone’s eyes to get rid of cataracts? That's your scripture ey?

53 posted on 04/17/2015 5:02:51 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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