Posted on 04/04/2015 1:54:16 PM PDT by Steelfish
By the time John wrote Revelation 85% of the churches had gone seriously off track yet Catholics would rely on even later writings of non apostles. Makes no sense.
Cite your source. A reputable source.
The book of Revelation. Reputable enough for you?
Never go outside the expertise of your people. It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals dont address the real issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
Catholics should stop using those tactics.
I dunno, there were some bad Popes, but the snake-handling sects have nothing to brag about in terms of quality leadership
Really? Off track . . . like so off track that most of the known world would be converted. Please list the “non-apostles” you are referring too - they must have really misheard the Apostles you speak of - clearly, someone in their home in 2015 reading a translated Bible is of superior sourcing.
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“Written by St. Irenaeus about 185 AD”
Well, it was prophesied that the church would face perversion from within and without.
Will NEVER happen on matters of doctrine:
Matthew 28:20
“Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.”
Link to article
https://www.crossroadsinitiative.com/library_article/541/Eucharist_as_Pledge_of_Resurrection_St._Irenaeus.html
Matthew 28:20 does not rule out the failure of individual churches. Christ revealed this in the opening chapters of Revelation.
Really? "Most of the known world" would hear the gospel or "be converted"? Because a person can hear it and still not believe. And according to your post, it would mean that a great revival has been taking place all this time because of the catholic church. Do you really believe that the world has been under revival for the last 2000 years?
No - to be clear, the assertion was the early church was off its tracks, in some sort of unspecified and undocumented way. My point was to simply say that such a “so off track” institution could not seriously have turned the world on its head as did the church during that time. Frankly, the point is so unsubstantiated it doesn’t really warrant a reply, but it is Holy Saturday.
For the sake of Our Lord, please to my brothers and sisters Protestant, enough of the attacks. Thank-you!
.....And no Eurcharist without the Ressurection as well.
All of those so called "church fathers" that Catholics rely on rather than the apostles that Jesus chose.
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