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To: Colofornian
Extending 'logic' of Mary as 'Mother of God': Is the Church 'Mother of Holy Spirit?'

No.

Spirits don't have mothers. You have to have a human nature to have a mother.

You're kind of missing the whole point of "Theotokos". It was to point out the utter mystery at the heart of the faith: God became man.

Not God became co-located with man, or God indwelt man, or God found a man he really liked, or anything like that. God became man: one divine person, with two natures, one human, one divine.

2 posted on 03/27/2015 2:52:18 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
God became man: one divine person, with two natures, one human, one divine.

Yes.

Not God became co-located with man...

(And here we thought Jesus' address for 33 years was "Planet Earth")

Spirits don't have mothers. You have to have a human nature to have a mother.

You're kinda missing the point. Here's what I wrote in the article:

Just as Mary simply relented in order to enflesh Jesus, we, too as His Body simply acquiese to "embody" the Holy Spirit...We, too, are a collective theotokos.

Mary was a god-bearer; so is Jesus' Bride, the Church. See: John 14:16-17; 1 Cor. 3:16-17; 6:19; 2 Cor. 6:16; Eph. 3:16; Eze. 36:26-27; 37:14

You're kind of missing the whole point of "Theotokos". It was to point out the utter mystery at the heart of the faith: God became man.

Right. The ultimate Mystery.

But the Holy Spirit is no less divine...so you're not "getting the point": That is Utter Mystery 2.0 (the Sequel)

And that is:

How can The Divine One -- the Spirit -- inhabit mere men? And no, not men He "really liked"...but men redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.

I mean it's wonder enough how the Son of God from eternity became man. (I think C.S. Lewis once compared that to a man becoming a frog to save the frogs of the earth)

With Jesus, He didn't need to assume a body "of sin."

With the Holy Spirit, as He transforms us (2 Cor. 3:18), He is at times "grieved" by us or "quenched" by us. Yet He remains inhabited in us; embodying us.

And, yes, not just "any" body does the Holy Spirit inhabit, but the pluralized, universalized "Body of Christ"
27 Now YOU ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST, and each one of you is a part of it. (1 Cor. 12)

Mystery 2.0

5 posted on 03/27/2015 3:51:10 PM PDT by Colofornian
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