Posted on 03/18/2015 6:21:18 AM PDT by RnMomof7
I believe your point resolves to Christian doctrine is irrelevant. Yes?
Which doctrine?
LOL you tell 'em Teacher!!!
some of them have NO idea of what they are talking about and the rest will do almost anything to get under your skin.!!
The irony of that statement issuing from your keyboard is THE height of irony.
You could take Westminster Confession of Faith as an example. Or.. how about sola scriptura? Irrelevant?
Is there something in there that you see as not agreeing with scripture?
How about we stay on topic?
That was on topic. You brought up the Westminster confession with regards to Sola Scriptura. I simply asked if you saw something in the Westminster Confession that was Sola Scriptura.
The topic is whether sola scriptura fails in practice: by producing significant differences.
I pointed to major differences in two sets of doctrine.
You found them irrelevant.
I asked if all doctrine is irrelevant. If all doctrine is irrelevant then significant differences don’t matter (further the doctrine of sola scriptura becomes irrelevant.)
You asked is there something in the Westminster Confession that I see as not agreeing with scripture.
Off topic.
And still you haven’t shown that any of the differences are relevant to salvation.
Relevance to salvation is not necessary to show significance differences in Christian doctrine produced via sola scriptura, so it’s a moot point.
We need to remember that a church doctrine is a belief that a church teaches. The set is “what we believe.” If the tenet of sola scriptura is “Holy Scripture is sufficient of itself to be the final authority of Christian doctrine” it would be necessary that those applying it to the same source share the same beliefs - the same doctrine. Otherwise sola scriptura results in significantly different Christian beliefs. This is, again, my point.
I am curious, though, to hear whether the doctrine of sola scriptura is relevant in your opinion.
Whatsoever you shall loose on Earth shall be Loosed in Heaven, whatsoever you shall bind on Earth shall be bound in Heaven....
you stated that the Catholic church had no power to bind and loose???????????
do you really believe that the Apostles, 12 men in the first century, taught absolutely every truth encompassed by Christianity?????
Not at all...everyone in Heaven is a saint...the Catholic church merely points out that there are certain persons that can be shown to actuaally be there...Your mother, if deceased and in Heaven is a saint....but we have no way of knowing for certain that she is there....could still be in purgatory for all we know.
Not yet I hope...Saints are those who have recieved their reward in Heaven....hopefully you will be there some day. The Catholic church, which you once followed is the only certain way to get there....of course many are there who aren't Catholic, but to deny the path that Christ personally set up for us, seems to me to be putting yourself in a whole lot more jeopardy than was necessary.
Here’s bottom line. I search scripture alone for truth with the guidance from the Holy Spirit as it says to do. Catholics, Muslims, Mormons etc. search the minds and writings of fallible man for their beliefs. You choose for yourself which to trust.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Do you have another infallible source for what the apostles taught?
Well we keep coming up against the old sola scriptura thing:)
Phil 1:1Paul and Timothy, bond-servants of Christ Jesus, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, including the overseers and deacons: 2Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
6and I pray that the fellowship of your faith may become effective through the knowledge of every good thing which is in you for Christ's sake. 7For I have come to have much joy and comfort in your love, because the hearts of the saints have been refreshed through you, brother.
Col:3We give thanks to God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, 4since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and the love which you have for all the saints 5because of the hope laid up for you in heaven, of which you previously heard in the word of truth, the gospel…
I am a saint now...made one not because of anything I have done..but by the work of Christ :)
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>> “So, for 2,000+ years, the Holy Spirit has chosen to speak only to a handful of “elect” rather than the organized Catholic church which has encompassed BILLIONS of faithful Christians.” <<
The elect are the only people that will find Yehova’s rest, so why would the Holy Spirit waste his time on catholics?
They reject all but convenient clips of scripture, that can be twisted and tortured to create false doctrine. They seek humans that they declare to be officials of Heaven. What do they offer?
“Christians” is a rather nebulous word, having different meanings in various venues. Yeshua seeks not ‘christians,’ but those that do the will of the Father.
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LOL!!!
Tanakh is the scriptures.
When any NT writer spoke of scripture, that was what they spoke of. It was what they preached, to complete exclusion of all else.
Torah is the portion of the scriptures that defines the entirety of Yehova’s relationship with his creation.
What do you see in it?
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