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To: CynicalBear

Regarding your entire post, I think you are stuffing way too much information between the lines. However, there is one line that offers a chink in my position. It is this one:

Revelation 3:10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

However, it doesn’t go into detail about how they will be kept from it. And one could question what that hour of trial is to “test” the world’s inhabitants that they will be kept from.

This is why ALL of our positions are a bit of a clutching at the scriptures that support our particular viewpoint. It is why “ever virgin Mary” believing Catholics insiste upon translating the word “brothers” everywhere the bible refers to Jesus’ “brothers” to mean “cousins”. And that is, technically, one meaning of the word translated “brothers”, but it grossly strains the context.


87 posted on 03/13/2015 11:35:53 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf
>>However, it doesn’t go into detail about how they will be kept from it.<<

They had already been told in the multiple verses that talk about the "catching up". They were not unaware of what was meant and neither are we if we understand those passages that tell us.

>>This is why ALL of our positions are a bit of a clutching at the scriptures that support our particular viewpoint.<<

There is no "clutching at the scriptures" when you take all of it and fit it together with no contradictions.

>>It is why “ever virgin Mary” believing Catholics insiste upon translating the word “brothers” everywhere the bible refers to Jesus’ “brothers” to mean “cousins”.<<

It's nothing like that at all in that there is clearly a word for "cousins" in the Greek which the Holy Spirit did NOT use when speaking of Jesus brothers.

>>And that is, technically, one meaning of the word translated “brothers”, but it grossly strains the context.<<

No, it really isn't. If the Holy Spirit had meant they were Jesus cousins He would have inspired the word meaning cousin like He did here:

Collossians 4:10 My fellow prisoner Aristarchus sends you his greetings, as does Mark, the cousin (anepsios) of Barnabas.

Greek - anepsios - cousin [http://biblehub.com/greek/431.htm]

Those who claim there was no Greek word meaning cousin are obviously lying to us.

96 posted on 03/13/2015 12:36:53 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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