” You keep making my point about Self and Self Alone for me as if giving examples of denying what Scripture, Jesus Christ Himself in particular, says is not denying Scripture.”
Thanks, but no sale. We do not believe it says what you claim. Hundreds of millions of Christians.
“John 6:56 - Christ Himself even reintegrates that He is really present in the Eucharist, the real presence.”
Again, we disagree on meaning... of this passage as well as the others on the night of Passover.
“Until the Protestant revolt against the Church that started by throwing seven books out of the Old Testament”
We will disagree. We believe they never should have been in there. You can read the arguments online, so not worth delineating here.
“When someone elevates them self above Jesus Christ, by definition they believe in their Self and Self Alone and Christ is only a stage prop for them.”
And yet we do not believe this is happening. We believe Christ is not there physically. Some groups believe it is a bare memorial. Most believe there is a spiritual reality. My church is in the latter group. Neither group is “self alone.”
In regards to the self-alone claim, you might as well look internally to hundreds of millions of Catholics who believe birth control, abortion, gay marriage, etc. is perfectly fine. Clean it up and you’ll have a leg to stand on in this claim.
“No more pretense of invincible ignorance is possible and anyone who prefers followng their Self just as Eve did rather than following Christ is free to do so.”
And equally, those who prefer arts and crafts to make the wafer look like it is glorious will do so. You do have to work on your “self alone” line. It sounds good until examined and then fails.
Best.
No, I don't need to look at people who claim to be Catholic but who aren't any more than I need to look at people who claim to be Christian while denying what Jesus Christ Himself very clearly stated and reiterated.
Unlike such folks I trust the Holy Spirit and know the Holy Spirit didn't allow His Church to teach error for fifteen hundred years until some heretic could find Nobles to support and protect him and his heresy for their own ends.
I believe the Holy Spirit can and does protect His Word from error and that the Holy Spirit made sure that His Word has been properly interpreted from the Apostles to this very day no matter what alternative interpretations the Self and Self Alone crowd use to try and rationalize away their refusal to obey Jesus Christ.
Of course, someone who believes Jesus Christ Himself, God made flesh, was incapable of saying exactly what He intended to say it's no problem for them to believe the Holy Spirit hid in a cave for fifteen hundred years and allowed error to be taught by the Apostles and everyone from the Apostles until the Protestant heretics.