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To: aMorePerfectUnion
And thank you for a perfect example of Self and Self Alone interpretation in action since the context clearly is fitting to someone denying the real but invisible presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him, from the creation of the world, are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made ; his eternal power also, and divinity : so that they are inexcusable.
Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they have not glorified him as God, or given thanks ; but became vain in their thoughts, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Romans 1:22 For professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

Jesus Christ Himself said, "This is my body", folks pretend that's the same as when Christ didn't rip the door off of a house, hold it up, and say, "This is me". Such folks base their claim that Jesus Christ did not say exactly what he intended to say solely on their Self and Self Alone not wanting to deal with the consequences of taking Jesus Christ at His word.

Obviously, you most certainly do know someone who has fallen for the strong delusion of Self and Self Alone

Have a very Hello Kitty kinda day

21 posted on 03/07/2015 9:48:53 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin

Rashputin,

None of those verses is about the Lord’s Supper.

“Jesus Christ Himself said, “This is my body”, “

We agree 100% that Christ said this. We disagree with what it means.

“Such folks base their claim that Jesus Christ did not say exactly what he intended to say solely on their Self and Self Alone not wanting to deal with the consequences of taking Jesus Christ at His word.”

Not so much actually. There are hundreds of millions of Christians that believe something different than you... so your name calling of their beliefs is false. They are certainly not alone.

The consequence of taking Him at His Word is partaking of the Lord’s Supper together and in communion with each other and in His spiritual presence. We remember Him, thank Him for His amazing sacrifice and in humility receive the bread and wine as a memorial of the just judgement our own sins deserved and His gracious solution to the Adamic life inside us that is the source of our sins. We are consequently grateful for His sacrifice for us and of our co-crucifiction with Him.

What hundreds of millions of Christians don’t do is make His words into more than He said.

What we don’t have to do is use artworks to change the appearance of the elements to make them appear with worldly glory - any more than Christ did during the Last Passover where He instituted the Lord’s Supper.

As I started with, Catholics have been taught something different. Fine. We just disagree.


22 posted on 03/07/2015 10:00:42 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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