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To: ImaGraftedBranch; metmom
I bring this up as your comment discussed a literal New Testament statement by Paul. Why aren’t Christ’s literal words enough?

The problem with that is, if you think Jesus meant we must literally and physically eat his body, then you must always take things literally. Who gets to choose? Like metmom asks, have you plucked out your eyes lately? He said he was the door. I don't think he was made of wood with a metal handle. He said he was the Good Shepard, but I don't think his followers get sheared for their wool. He is the bright and morning star, but I don't think he shines in the sky at night. He is the Lily of the Valley, but I don't think he is growing in the ground. He is the Alpha and the Omega, but I don't think he is letters on a piece of paper. Where do we draw the line between literal and figurative? BTW, I agree with your tag line. There is a great falling away, and it is happening right before our eyes. Truer words were never spoken.

89 posted on 02/25/2015 5:37:12 PM PST by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered, all it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage)
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To: Mark17
The problem with that is, if you think Jesus meant we must literally and physically eat his body, then you must always take things literally.

Says who? You?

Who gets to choose?

How about the Pillar and Bulwark of the Truth... The Church.

Like metmom asks, have you plucked out your eyes lately?

Like pgyanke asks, where were we commanded to pluck out our eyes? Sure, there was the suggestion that we might choose that course of action as a solution to our sinfulness... but it wasn't a direct command.

He said he was the door. I don't think he was made of wood with a metal handle.

You define the term too narrowly: Door is also defined "any means of approach, admittance, or access:" Seems to fit to me.

He said he was the Good Shepard, but I don't think his followers get sheared for their wool.

Again, too narrow a definition: I am gladly of his fold and see no insult in him calling me his sheep. Baaah.

He is the bright and morning star, but I don't think he shines in the sky at night. He is the Lily of the Valley, but I don't think he is growing in the ground. He is the Alpha and the Omega, but I don't think he is letters on a piece of paper.

You are far to narrow in your interpretations all around. He is the Light in the darkness and the rare flower among thorns. He is beginning and end, not just a jot or tiddle.

Look, there are metaphors in the Bible, yes. But that doesn't make everything metaphor. There are direct exhortations also that demand attention. Jesus used metaphor to explain our relationship to him. He is the vine and I am a branch of His. This explains how we can be a separate individual and yet still part of Him. However, there is only one place in all of Scripture where Jesus says, "This is Me." ... and it wasn't while holding Scripture (which He held often). It was only when He took the bread and fulfilled the Jewish Passover which was to be always celebrated in all times. Do you still celebrate it? We do. It's the Mass. What Jesus said... is.

92 posted on 02/25/2015 5:57:03 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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