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To: Resettozero
I'm going to break up the paragraph below because it's just too... um, JPII. He is hard to excerpt in the first place.

From Fides et Ratio (JPII)

"There are also signs of a resurgence of fideism, which fails to recognize the importance of rational knowledge and philosophical discourse for the understanding of faith, indeed for the very possibility of belief in God. One currently widespread symptom of this fideistic tendency is a “biblicism” which tends to make the reading and exegesis of Sacred Scripture the sole criterion of truth. In consequence, the word of God is identified with Sacred Scripture alone, thus eliminating the doctrine of the Church which the Second Vatican Council stressed quite specifically.

"Having recalled that the word of God is present in both Scripture and Tradition, the Constitution Dei Verbum continues emphatically: “Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture comprise a single sacred deposit of the word of God entrusted to the Church. Embracing this deposit and united with their pastors, the People of God remain always faithful to the teaching of the Apostles”. Scripture, therefore, is not the Church's sole point of reference. The “supreme rule of her faith” derives from the unity which the Spirit has created between Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture and the Magisterium of the Church in a reciprocity which means that none of the three can survive without the others."

I realize you find this bizarre because I think it is condemning the very thing you believe, but this is the way the Church teaches.

361 posted on 02/27/2015 4:19:34 PM PST by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Legatus
"The “supreme rule of her faith” derives from the unity which the Spirit has created between Sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture and the Magisterium of the Church in a reciprocity which means that none of the three can survive without the others.""

Isaiah 55:11 "So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it."

Traditions and men can often be a hindrance to "sanctify them with the truth,thy Word is truth"

God's written Word will survive not because of men and traditions but often in spite of them.

Herding 3,000 cats would be far easier than trying to yoke the Word with anything.

366 posted on 02/27/2015 4:42:52 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure:for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: Legatus
I realize you find this bizarre because I think it is condemning the very thing you believe, but this is the way the Church teaches.

Talk about reading my mind and telling me what I think...just, wow.

This is the way YOUR Catholic church, one of many Christian organizations around the world, has taught YOU.
367 posted on 02/27/2015 4:43:40 PM PST by Resettozero
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