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To: ealgeone

You gratuitously contradict me, so I gratuitously ignore you. You provide absolutely not a shred of evidence that a Christian in Heaven cannot pray or hear requests for prayers, even though a Christian in Baltimore CAN.

The idea that people in Heaven are unaware of us on earth is just plain moronic. Read the Book of Revelation. The blessed in heaven offer prayers for their brothers and sisters on earth.

when it comes to Mary, you gratuitously make the same old, same old accusation: Namely, that we Catholics secretly are taught, behind closed doors and drawn curtains, to worship Mary. The thousands of textbooks, catechisms, conciliar declarations, papal declarations, saying that Catholics DO NOT worship Mary have all been published in an attempt to deceive Protestants. SECRETLY, Catholics are taught the OPPOSITE of what is in ALL Catholic catechisms, etc.

Riiiiight.


208 posted on 02/26/2015 7:54:22 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan; Salvation

Perhaps Salvation should make that the catholic word of the day...”gratuitously”. You shirley like to use it.


209 posted on 02/26/2015 8:04:11 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Arthur McGowan
Catholics are taught the OPPOSITE of what is in ALL Catholic catechisms...

Since there was no sarcasm-off tag, I expect an RCC priest would not lie and therefore, your statement stands.
210 posted on 02/26/2015 8:07:56 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Arthur McGowan; ealgeone
>>You provide absolutely not a shred of evidence that a Christian in Heaven cannot pray or hear requests for prayers,<<

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything,

Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.

Psalm 6:5 Among the dead no one proclaims your name. Who praises you from the grave?

Psalm 88:10 Do you show your wonders to the dead? Do their spirits rise up and praise you?

Psalm 115:17 It is not the dead who praise the LORD, those who go down to the place of silence;

Deuteronomy 18:10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead.

1 Chronicles 10:13 So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the LORD, even against the word of the LORD, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to inquire of it; 14 And inquired not of the LORD: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse.

You have not shown one shred of evidence that those who have passed from this life are included in those we should have pray for us.

217 posted on 02/26/2015 9:13:19 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Arthur McGowan
when it comes to Mary, you gratuitously make the same old, same old accusation: Namely, that we Catholics secretly are taught, behind closed doors and drawn curtains, to worship Mary. The thousands of textbooks, catechisms, conciliar declarations, papal declarations, saying that Catholics DO NOT worship Mary have all been published in an attempt to deceive Protestants. SECRETLY, Catholics are taught the OPPOSITE of what is in ALL Catholic catechisms, etc.

No one has ever made that claim...You're pretty quick and loose with the false accusations...Part of the job???

No doubt Catholics worship Mary out of ignorance...Your leaders tell you it isn't worship while it clearly is...Praying TO Mary is worship...

274 posted on 02/26/2015 2:37:58 PM PST by Iscool
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