Posted on 02/25/2015 11:50:17 AM PST by NYer
It seems the Holy Spirit through Paul disagrees with you. I'll stay with what the Holy Spirit says out right.
Amen!
Fair game...
Also refutes “confession” to a priest..but who is counting ??
Because context is your key....
Rev 20:11-15
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
The first time Christ’s disciples left him, was when he said, literally, that we must eat His flesh and drink His blood, because they were real food and real drink. When His disciples questioned his literal statements, He doubled down — when what they wanted to hear was that it was just an alliteration.
It was not, and they left! Christ asked whether His apostles would also leave after hearing this truth. Of course not; Christ had the “words of life” — to whom would they go?
I bring this up as your comment discussed a literal New Testament statement by Paul. Why aren’t Christ’s literal words enough?
Let me take a stab at explaining how we get around that. It is rather simple. The dead standing before God, are just that. Dead, spiritually dead. Not one saved person will be standing there. It is not a judgement to determine if they are going to Heaven or Hell. That was already chiseled in stone for eternity, the day they died physicalIy. Every single solitary one of them, standing before God at the great white throne judgement, WILL go to the Lake of Fire. The judgement is only to determine their degree of punishment, nothing more than that. 😪
Yea but He could not have prayed it if Mary was not "Immaculately conceived" and a virgin after marriage.. ...see it always goes back to mary we know that because of the "assumption" that we read about in Acts < /sarcasm >
Christ literally said His words were spirit. He literally said the flesh didn’t profit anything. He literally told John in Revelation to eat the scroll. He said rivers of water would run from your belly. He literally set the law against eating blood. He literally had to abide by every law to be considered sin free.
Now here, my FRiends, is the Gospel of Jesus Christ...rest for our souls as we don't attempt to create a righteousness of our own, but cling to His immutable, vicariously delivered holiness. And, His blood forgives our brokenness and inability, our failure to be the people we should be. Thank you, .45 Long Colt...you are dead on the target (actually you are alive on the target, but the pun was irresistible).
No, I don’t recite rote prayers.
Correct. It is astonishing the slavery that Rome delivers through bad interpretations.
Nice attempt at a dodge though.
It’s all there for all to see that Catholics DO pray to Mary and ask her for things, things that only God Himself can give.
Which means they’re engaging in idolatry and at the very least, all that time praying those useless prayers that can’t be answered, is wasted time.
Nope.
Those who won’t trust Christ for salvation have nothing but their works to be judged on.
And that’s what many people want anyway. God is just judging them according to how they want to be judged.
And it isn’t going to end well.
They appeal to their works. Their works will condemn them at the last.
I am a Catholic, baptized and confirmed. My siblings and their spouses and families are Catholic. My oldest son ( also a freeper) is a devout Catholic, whose heart is the largest I will ever know. My youngest son is the most theologically gifted young man I have ever seen, in his junior year of college, with 4 years of Koine Greek and two years of Hebrew behind him ( and more to come), and has the greatest understanding of not only scripture, but early church fathers and exegetical scholarship as well, that I have herd of for a young man.
My youngest, by the way, will be a Protestant pastor. I LOVE going to churches where he is asked to preach. I just don’t partake of communion there.
WE ALL LOVE THE LORD, with the same passion, desire and yearning.
My two sons, one Catholic, and one Protestant, have the greatest love and affection for each other, and STRENGTHEN each other continuously.
Why is that?
Because it is not about us. It is NEVER about us. It is always, and forever more, about Jesus.
Live for Him. But please, we need to concentrate on the real issues. There are Christians being slaughtered continuously, and I come on this forum and see these flame wars and my heart breaks.
My wife is also Protestant, and on Sunday’s when I go to her church with her, 1 out of every 4 Sunday’s there is some kind of attack against Catholics.
Why don’t I ever, ever hear similar against Protestants at the Catholic Churches?
Because the mass is about Jesus. Not us.
Thanks to God my youngest is a true scholar, and having understood the foundation of Christianity, is well beyond the nitpicking that goes on here.
Jesus weeps.
Matthew 23: 8-10 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ.
Oh, and have you gouged out any eyes lately, or cut off your hand?
What about snake handling or drinking poison? How's that working out for you?
No one ever said there were not true believers attending the Catholic Church. It’s the errors of the Catholic Church teaching that is the focus. God said “come out of her my people lest ye be partakers of her plagues”. That alone tells me that there are people who He calls His even in the “church” He called the whore of Babylon. That has always meant a church or nation that incorporated paganism.
With the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption--Psalm 130:7
Soli Deo Gloria!
Great. Now reconcile that with what I posted from James 2. If you don’t understand Romans, James 2 will seem to contradict. What do you say?
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