[Biggirl]

.....And what is happening now could plant the seeds for a new world war. We may be on the cusp of it.

[Lakeshark]

You may be right, but I surely hope you are wrong. The West doesn't seem to have the stomach for it right now.

[Lakeshark]

In the Vatican there is a huge mural.

It shows a famous Polish general who prevailed against the Islamists long ago at the gates of Vienna. He was decorated the day after September 11, when the battle was fought and won, Christians against Islam. It prevented Europe from going the way of Constantinople.

They have long memories, it is said that Osama decided on that date for revenge.