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"When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. Then the King will say to those at his right hand, `Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.' Then the righteous will answer him, `Lord, when did we see thee hungry and feed thee, or thirsty and give thee drink? And when did we see thee a stranger and welcome thee, or naked and clothe thee? And when did we see thee sick or in prison and visit thee?' And the King will answer them, `Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.' Then he will say to those at his left hand, `Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.' Then they also will answer, `Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?' Then he will answer them, `Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.' And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." Matt. 25:31-46

Now how did I guess that would be the next scripture ??So lets look at it ok??

That does not say that one is saved by works does it?

This dissertation is an end times teaching.. THIS is the final judgement ...Notice that the saved and the unsaved had already been separated.. This was not a salvation decision, but one of REWARDS ..

Mat 25:34
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

One does not EARN an inheritance it is a GIFT ...and the sheep had already been given the gift..but now is the time of the 'rewards " for them The Sheep were not ever GOATS. the Goats never behaved like sheep

Mat 16:27"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father, with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."
Luke 14:14"For thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just."
(Rev 22:12)"And, behold, I come quickly;and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."
1Peter 5:4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away."

The Goats are condemned , not because they did not work, but because they had never repented and believed

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

They were not sheep because they did the work that God had ordained for them, Gal. 2:16: "[T]hat we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified

Hear Jesus

Jhn 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Please take time to REALLY read Mat..if you do you will find that the sheep did not even realize they were doing "good works"

Mat 25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
The Sheep had done only what God had placed in their heart.. they were notseeking "reward "

That does not say that one is saved by works does it?

OK, fair enough. But "saved by works" was your terminology, not mine. I just copied over what you had written.

I've been citing to Paul who says that God "renders (rewards) eternal life in accordance with works." (Rom. 2:6-7) This is language that tracks what his Teacher, Jesus Christ says (Matt. 16:27), which then takes us to Matt. 25. This is an example of God rendering eternal life in accordance with works.

Better?

This dissertation is an end times teaching.. THIS is the final judgement ... It's what Catholics term the "General Judgment," as opposed to the "Particular Judgment" we individually face when we die. But why is it supposed that we are judged differently at these two times?

Notice that the saved and the unsaved had already been separated..

Well . . . not quite:

When the Son of man comes . . . he will sit on his glorious throne. . . and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats . . .

"He will separate them" isn't exactly "they are already separated."

This was not a salvation decision, but one of REWARDS ..

What was the criterion of judgment? Answer: charitable works (or lack thereof). What was the "reward" given to the Sheep? Hint: "they will go . . . into eternal life."

I say the reward stated is "eternal life" (salvation). If not that, then what is the reward indicated?

One does not EARN an inheritance it is a GIFT

And I've never, EVER used the term "earn," so kindly dispense with that strawman argument.

But an inheritance is given to one's children, and how does one abide as a child of God?

“I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch of mine that bears no fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit. . . . 5 I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in me, and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If a man does not abide in me, he is cast forth as a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire and burned. . . . 9 As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you; abide in my love. 10 If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and abide in his love. 11 These things I have spoken to you, that my joy may be in you, and that your joy may be full. 12. “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. John 15:1,2,5,6, 9-12

"Although he was a Son, he learned obedience through what he suffered; 9 and being made perfect he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him[.]" Heb. 5:8-9

The Sheep are obedient to the commandment to love one another. As such, they are said to abide in God's love, remaining His children and receiving the inheritance.

The Goats are condemned , not because they did not work, but because they had never repented and believed

Where does the passage say anything about "because you did not repent?" or "because you did not believe?" Can you point me to the specific verse(s)? Again, like your take on James 2 where you talk about how Christians are seen by the heathen, you just make this up as you go.

The Goats called Him "Lord." They believed in who He is. They just weren't obedient to His commandment to love and were cast into the fire.