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To: CpnHook
>>But Paul through the Holy Spirit speaks of God rendering eternal life (salvation) to those that have done these works.<<

I can't find that. Post the verse or passage you think is doing that.

>>Except contrary to your claim, the works are placed in the context of God rewarding eternal life (salvation).<<

That can't be. Believers are only given rewards. All sins of believers have been forgiven and never brought up again. How could God possibly bring them up when He said they were forgiven never to be brought up again? Matthew 16:27 is talking about when Christ returns. Christians are forgiven when the believe and accept Christ. Only good deeds remain.

45 posted on 02/23/2015 5:42:04 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
That can't be. Believers are only given rewards.

Prove it! You are doing EXACTLY as I predicted: negating what the verse says because it doesn't fit your pre-conceived view. Let's look at the verses I put forth again:

6 For [God] will render to every man according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. Rom 2:6-8

The contrast set up between verses 7 and 8 is one between obedience and disobedience. Those who are obedient through "well-doing" are rewarded with "eternal life." But those who are factious and disobedient will be meted a different justice accordingly.

Paul through the Holy Spirit says that what God will "render" (reward) is applicable to "every man." "Every man" means everyone -- that includes believers. And to further show this point, the Greek that here translates as "render" is the verb apodidōmi. And apodidōmi elsewhere is clearly used as regards believers:

"Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award [apodidomi] to me on that Day, and not only to me but also to all who have loved his appearing. 2 Tim. 4:8

So, contrary to your assertion, Paul in Rom 2 is addressing believers ("every man"). And Paul says that as to "every man" God will render (reward) according to works; to those that are obedient he will give "eternal life" (salvation).

65 posted on 02/24/2015 4:11:11 PM PST by CpnHook
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