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To: pastorbillrandles
"How would Adam and Eve been saved? Moses explains in Genesis 3 that they believed in the original gospel promise, of the seed of the woman. How was Abraham justified? Moses tells us in Genesis “Abraham believed God and it was counted for Righteousness”!"

Please. You actually buy into the Adam and Eve fairy tale? If so, how do you explain where Cain and Able found their wives? Where did those women come from since Cain and Able were the only children of Adam and Eve? How can you shut down your intellect like that? Remember, God gave you logic, and yet you and others actually believe those ramblings of unknowledgable superstitious old men.

The Old Testament is fantasy. The New Testament has some hisorical fact. However, those who wrote the Gospels believed the Earth was flat and the Sun revolved around the Earth.

I absolutely love the idea of Christ and what he stood for. I want to believe.

5 posted on 02/20/2015 5:09:22 PM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

Navy Vet, with all due respect, you don’t know what you are talking about.Not only do I believe in Adam and Eve, the Lord Jesus Christ believed in them. There truly was a beginning to the human race, a first man and woman, created by God in His Image.Cain and Abel were not the only children of Adam and Eve, they were merely the subject of Genesis 4. Obviously they would have been expected to marry one of their sisters, Adam and Eve’s daughters. Christianity is the source of the modern university, the hospital and the scientific method, so don’t tell me about intellectual shutdown. Countless intellects much higher than you and me have embraced wholeheartedly the Biblical record, and they accomplished much more than the Nihilistic atheistic posers of our recent history. I will take as much time as you need to dialogue with you, because I sympathize with your desire to believe. My e-mail address is pastorbillrandles@gmail.com


6 posted on 02/20/2015 5:21:08 PM PST by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: A Navy Vet
However, those who wrote the Gospels believed the Earth was flat and the Sun revolved around the Earth.However, those who wrote the Gospels believed the Earth was flat and the Sun revolved around the Earth.

Who told you that? The bible describes the earth as a circle or sphere. The Greeks used the circle observed on the water as proof of a spherical earth. The flat earth is a product of the dark ages, not the ancient world.

I am confused with your first two paragraphs as your arguments are simplistic and clearly answered in the Bible itself, doesn't even take much study to have your questions answered.

If you really want your questions answered then search it out for yourself, it is much more fulfilling to find the answers on your own.

8 posted on 02/20/2015 5:51:42 PM PST by D Rider
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To: A Navy Vet
How can you shut down your intellect like that? Remember, God gave you logic, and yet you and others actually believe those ramblings of unknowledgable superstitious old men.

Who produced a work of writing contained in the Bible that is unparalleled in scope and coherency.

Can you write as well as any of those *superstitious old men*?

The Old Testament is fantasy.

On the contrary, archeological evidence has yet to prove the OT historically wrong. Rather it has substantiated it over and over again as archeological discoveries confirm accounts in the OT that had been previously considered legend or mythology, as you are claiming.

However, those who wrote the Gospels believed the Earth was flat and the Sun revolved around the Earth.

Prove it. Show us the basis for your claims.

I absolutely love the idea of Christ and what he stood for. I want to believe.

Then focus on Jesus and what He did and the message He preached. Just read the Gospels, especially John, and see His heart for humanity.

In a nutshell, the gospel is about reconciling man back to God. If you really want a right relationship with God, tell Him and you'll get it.

10 posted on 02/20/2015 6:03:00 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: A Navy Vet
>>Cain and Able were the only children of Adam and Eve?<<

Please show where scripture teaches that Cain and Able were their "only" children.

Adam lived 930 years. And just so you don't embarrass yourself.

Genesis 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

830 years is a lot of time to have sons and daughters.

12 posted on 02/20/2015 6:10:33 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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