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To: iowacornman
>>You are not reading the Greek and Hebrew.<<

Oh really? Well, let's take it verse by verse.

Revelation 20:10 καὶ ὁ διάβολος ὁ πλανῶν αὐτοὺς ἐβλήθη εἰς τὴν λίμνην τοῦ πυρὸς καὶ θείου ὅπου καὶ τὸ θηρίον καὶ ὁ ψευδοπροφήτης καὶ βασανισθήσονται ἡμέρας καὶ νυκτὸς εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων

Now, would you pleas show where I was off in the English version I gave you?

>>Where ever you see “church” substitute “the called out” which was the meaning of ekklesia.<<

There is no word "church" in scripture. The New Testament assembly that Christ called out was the ἐκκλησίαν (ekklēsian). It simply meant assembly. Typically an assembly of those called out for a purpose. It was used for secular meetings as well such as city council type meetings. The closest word to "church" is κυριακῇ (kyriakē) which means "belonging to the Lord".

Now, let's get back to those verses you claim I am "not reading the Greek and Hebrew". Please tell me how the Revelation 29:10 passage differs from the English I posted. We can deal with each verse I posted separately.

78 posted on 02/21/2015 7:16:28 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
ekklesia means all professing Believers. In this sense ekklhsia takes on a meaning almost synonymous all with Christians. Paul said to the Romans, “the ekklhsiai (plural) of Christ salute you” (Rom. 16:16). To the Galatians Paul wrote that he had “persecuted the ekklhsia of God” (Gal. 13:13). In these statements no particular local assembly is in view. Paul is speaking of Christians everywhere. The Greeks has a perfectly good word foe "assemblly" "Συνέλευση " Pronounced Synélef̱si̱ " They didn't use ekklecia for the concept of "assembly". King James believers hijacked that distorted definition of "assembly"to rationalize the false translation. Thank you for the opportunity and good luck.
82 posted on 02/22/2015 7:40:35 AM PST by iowacornman
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