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Ten Things Every Catholic Should Know About Sola Scriptura
Standing on my head ^ | February 11, 2015 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 02/12/2015 2:17:57 PM PST by NYer

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Do you know how to answer a non Catholic Christian who challenges you about the Bible?

Knowing how everybody loves lists, here are ten things every Catholic should know about Sola Scriptura:

1. Sola Scriptura means “only Scripture”. It is the Protestant belief that the Bible is the only source for teaching on doctrine and morality.

2. Sola Scriptura was one of three “solos” the other two being Sola Fide (Faith Alone) and Sola Gratia (Grace Alone)

3. Sola Scriptura which means “Scripture Alone” cannot be found in the Bible. The closest proof text is 2 Timothy 3:16-17 “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God  may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.” While this verse says Scripture is useful for these things it doesn’t say Scripture is the only source for “teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness.”

4. While Protestants claim to follow Sola Scriptura, in practice they interpret the Bible according to their own denominational traditions. Presbyterians have the Bible plus Calvinism. Baptists have the Bible plus their theological opinions. Lutherans have the Bible plus the teaching of Luther etc.

5. Jesus commanded and prophesied that he would establish a church, but he nowhere commanded or prophesied that a book would be written recording his words and works. This is why Catholics say the Church came first. The Bible came second. Jesus passed his authority on through the apostles–not through a book.

6. How could sola Scriptura be the only way for people to know God when, for most of history, the majority of people could neither read nor have access to books?

7. Protestants blame Catholics for believing late, man made doctrines that the early church had never heard of, but Sola Scriptura had never been heard of before the sixteenth century. Not only can it not be proved from the Bible, but there is no trace of the doctrine of sola Scriptura anywhere in the writings of the early church. The entire edifice of Protestantism, however, is based on the foundation of sola Scriptura. 

8. If the only source for teaching and moral instruction comes from the Bible how are we supposed to answer the questions that arise about things that were never heard of in Bible times? How can the Bible instruct us about important current problems like nuclear war, artificial contraception, in vitro fertilization, euthanasia, gender re-assignment or genetic modification, cloning or a whole range of other modern issues. Only a living and dynamic, Spirit filled authority can sift the facts and come up with the right teaching.

9. Sola Scriptura is linked with the idea of that the Bible is easy enough for any simple person to understand. While the basic teachings seem easy to understand it is clear that the Bible is an extremely complex document which requires the insights of theologians, Bible scholars and linguists to understand clearly. Why else would Protestant pastors be required to go to seminary before being qualified to be pastors?

10. Sola Scriptura has led to the thousands of divisions within Protestantism. Because they couldn’t agree, even from the beginning, the Protestant leaders began to split and form their own sects. How could sola Scriptura be the foundation for the church when it leads to such division? How could this division be part of Jesus command and prayer that there be “one flock and one shepherd”?


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
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To: driftdiver
So if the Bible is wrong or incomplete who gets to say what parts are wrong or incomplete?

You missed the point! The Bible Itself never states that It is the sole and only authority of Christianity. The word "Bible" is not even mentioned in Scripture. "

The Bible Itself states that there are "oral" teachings and traditions that are to be carried on to the present-day (2 Thessalonians 2:15; 1 Corinthians 11:2; 2 Timothy 2:2; Romans 10:17; 1 Peter 1:24-25). These teachings are what the Catholic Church considers "Sacred Apostolic Tradition." This type of "Tradition" never changes because it was passed down by the Apostles themselves. It is not the same as the man-made traditions condemned in Scripture. The man-made traditions condemned in Scripture were those of the Jewish Pharisees. In fact, as Christians, we are suppose to disassociate ourselves from persons who do not follow Apostolic Tradition (2 Thessalonians 3:6). If oral tradition is not to be followed, why did St. Paul state Christ said something that is not recorded in the Gospels (Acts 20:35)? St. Paul must have "heard" this saying, not read it from any Gospel or "Scripture," thereby, proving that some things Christ said were not recorded in the Gospels (John 21:25) and were passed on orally among His disciples instead, but were just as valid as anything written since St. Paul himself used one of these oral passages in one of his own epistles.

21 posted on 02/12/2015 2:38:53 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: Boogieman
It is the belief that the Bible is the supreme authority in regards to matters of doctrine and morals.

Where is that belief in the Bible?

22 posted on 02/12/2015 2:40:41 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Sola Scriptura which means “Scripture Alone” cannot be found in the Bible.
I keep asking this question. Never get an answer
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It’s right next to the demand that all who succeed Peter must be celibate. One chapter after Paul stating not to be like the Berean’s but instead contact your local Bishop for proper Scripture interpretation


23 posted on 02/12/2015 2:40:46 PM PST by Joshua (Jimmy is the reason for this)
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To: RnMomof7
Where does Rome get her authority from?

Christ stated that the Church, not Scripture should be the final authority: "And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the Church: but if he neglect to hear the Church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican." (Matthew 18:17 ) Christ did not state to refer to or consult Scripture for disputes and correction. He said to go to the Church as It is the final authority in Christianity. In addition, St. Paul states that the Church, not Scripture is "THE pillar and ground of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15) Since the Church alone is mentioned as the pillar of truth, then It alone has the right to discern the truth and interpret Scripture. For if individuals could correctly interpret Scripture, then all interpretations would be exactly the same as there can only be one Spiritual Truth for the plural of the word "truth" never appears in Scripture. The Church is Christ's bride (Ephesians 5:29) and has "no spot, wrinkle or blemish" (Ephesians 5:27). Christ also stated that the gates of Hell will not prevail against His Church (Matthew 16:18) so how can the Church commit error? Individual clergy may commit sins, even popes commit sins because in the Church there are both "weeds and wheat" (Matthew 13:30).

24 posted on 02/12/2015 2:41:16 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

You’re missing the point. If its not created by God then its created by Man.


25 posted on 02/12/2015 2:41:56 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: FatherofFive

Where does it mention Catholic?


26 posted on 02/12/2015 2:42:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Boogieman
Yup, false premise. Would you like me to explain why?

Because it is not in Scripture, and it was not believed for the first 1,500 years of Christianity.

27 posted on 02/12/2015 2:42:53 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

If you just want to talk to yourself, instead of having a dialogue, please leave me out of it.


28 posted on 02/12/2015 2:47:17 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: NYer

3. Sola Scriptura which means “Scripture Alone” cannot be found in the Bible.


According to your own belief the fact that it can not be found in the Bible should not be a problem, it is truth even if it not in the Bible.


29 posted on 02/12/2015 2:47:23 PM PST by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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To: driftdiver
There can only be one Truth.

People can not just get together and add to what He has revealed.

But this is exactly what you have done, and this was the Protestant ‘reformation’ – breaking away after 1,500 years from the Church Christ established.

Paul warned us about those introducing false teachings, "For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." (2 Tim. 4:3–4).

There was only “The Church” until the heresy of the Reformation.

The protestant “reformation” is simply not Biblical:

“I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. My brothers, some from Chloe's household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas"; still another, "I follow Christ."

Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Paul? I am thankful that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, so no one can say that you were baptized into my name. (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don't remember if I baptized anyone else.) For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with words of human wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. 1Cor 1:10-17

You could easily read the above as “One of you says, "I follow Luther"; another, "I follow Calvin"; another, "I follow Wesley"; still another, "I follow Christ."

Christians cannot be “perfectly united in mind and thought” when they have different beliefs on, say, the necessity of water baptism, while others believe “This is my Body” means “This is a cookie”

There can be only one ‘Truth’ – Christ is THE way, THE truth, THE life. One, not many.

And what if you have a disagreement with a brother as to what is ‘The Truth?’ Where do you go to resolve your issue? Scripture tells us what to do:

"If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

Right – the Church.

“But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

30 posted on 02/12/2015 2:48:12 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Boogieman
It does not mean that the Bible is the only source on doctrine and morals.

That's an assertion contrary to that expressed by many "Sola Scriptura" adherents here.

31 posted on 02/12/2015 2:49:53 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Boogieman
If you just want to talk to yourself, instead of having a dialogue, please leave me out of it.

I'm talking to you. You are ignoring the words of Scripture.

32 posted on 02/12/2015 2:49:55 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Boogieman
If you just want to talk to yourself, instead of having a dialogue, please leave me out of it.

Show where Sola Scriptura is in Scripture

33 posted on 02/12/2015 2:52:00 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

just to state the obvious.

Pope is not found in the Bible either.


34 posted on 02/12/2015 2:56:29 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: Bidimus1

In the Bible it’s spelled “P-e-t-e-r”.


35 posted on 02/12/2015 2:57:56 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NYer; driftdiver
The Bible Itself states that there are "oral" teachings and traditions that are to be carried on to the present-day (2 Thessalonians 2:15; 1 Corinthians 11:2; 2 Timothy 2:2; Romans 10:17; 1 Peter 1:24-25).

Our Lord Jesus also had a few choice words about traditions such as:

So how do you make sure that you are not following the tradition of men? After all, the rabbis felt convinced they were following God's laws.
36 posted on 02/12/2015 3:01:04 PM PST by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: Tao Yin
The scriptures were read in church since the beginning.

Each Church had some writing but not all of them until such time as the writings were evaluated and compiled into one source. Between the years 390 and 406 St. Jerome translated the Old Testament directly from the Hebrew, and this completed work is known today as the "Old Latin Vulgate". The work had been requested by Pope Damasus. The Council of Carthage (397) was the first Council to publish a list of all the inspired books of the Bible. The Council of Florence repeated the canon of the Bible, and it was restated at the Council of Trent.

Besides, Sola Scriptura does not mean that illiterate people can't know God.

Of course not! The Bible denies that it is sufficient as the complete rule of faith. Paul says that much Christian teaching is to be found in the tradition which is handed down by word of mouth (2 Tim. 2:2). He instructs us to "stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thess. 2:15).

This oral teaching was accepted by Christians, just as they accepted the written teaching that came to them later. Jesus told his disciples: "He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me" (Luke 10:16). The Church, in the persons of the apostles, was given the authority to teach by Christ; the Church would be his representative. He commissioned them, saying, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations" (Matt. 28:19).

And how was this to be done? By preaching, by oral instruction: "So faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes by the preaching of Christ" (Rom. 10:17).

37 posted on 02/12/2015 3:03:10 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: FatherofFive

Again, your question is based on a false premise. I’d gladly explain why that is, if you want to know.

Or you can keep making assumptions and getting nowhere. Up to you.


38 posted on 02/12/2015 3:03:19 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: DuncanWaring

“That’s an assertion contrary to that expressed by many “Sola Scriptura” adherents here.”

That hasn’t been my experience. The only ones I have ever seen misinterpreting “sola scriptura” around here are Catholics who want to attack the doctrine.


39 posted on 02/12/2015 3:04:32 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: FatherofFive
No, you are talking to yourself. You just asked a question, and then answered it yourself.
40 posted on 02/12/2015 3:06:51 PM PST by Boogieman
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