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To: RnMomof7

Christ’s sacrifice on Calvary is finished.

Our APPROPRIATION of the grace that comes to us through Christ is not finished.

Satan, who hates us and does not want us to grow in grace, promotes the notion of “once-saved-always-saved” and other doctrines that destroy people’s understanding that they need to GROW in grace and holiness.

The idea that we do NOT grow in holiness, but that God merely lies to himself, and proclaims filthy sinners to be “saved,” is a Satanic idea.

Satan is delighted by maimed, deformed versions of Christianity that have deprived many generations of the sacraments of Penance and the Eucharist.


44 posted on 02/08/2015 5:20:48 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

You seem certain of the mind of Satan. That’s odd.


46 posted on 02/08/2015 5:28:35 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Arthur McGowan; RnMomof7

If you just realized what a twisted version of what scripture actually says and what true believers believe that you just presented you would turn from that fallen church.


59 posted on 02/08/2015 6:00:18 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Arthur McGowan
"Satan, who hates us and does not want us to grow in grace, promotes the notion of “once-saved-always-saved” and other doctrines that destroy people’s understanding that they need to GROW in grace and holiness."

John 10
27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and the Father are one."

In one passage, Christ identifies those who are His, identifies that His gift is eternal life, states that they will never perish, says no one can take them away from Him, backs it up with the Omnipotence of the Father and bases it on his own identity as God.

"The idea that we do NOT grow in holiness, but that God merely lies to himself, and proclaims filthy sinners to be “saved,” is a Satanic idea."

We grow as Christians. Positionally, when we come to entrust ourselves to Christ for eternal life, we are no longer sinners. The debt has been paid utterly. Our nature as sinners has changed and we are baptized into Christ. His righteousness becomes the believers. On earth, as long as we have the life of Adam in us, we commit sins. The believer also has a new nature. Positionally, the believer is seated in the heavenlies with Christ. I refer you to Ephesians. A wonderful book.

You post as if you do not know or understand the wonderful grace of God, not the meaning of salvation, nor the cross.

67 posted on 02/08/2015 6:15:50 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Arthur McGowan
The idea that we do NOT grow in holiness, but that God merely lies to himself, and proclaims filthy sinners to be “saved,” is a Satanic idea.

No, God proclaims filthy sinners saved because He canceled the record of our sin debt that stood against us, nailing it to the cross.

We have a judicial pardon that declares us as if we had never sinned and that's how God deals with us under the new covenant.

Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

Colossians 2:13-14 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.

Colossians 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.

That is why we are once saved, always saved. Because our sin has been paid for by the death of Jesus and nothing we can do can change that because ALL our sin debt has been paid.

So there's no sin left that we can commit that God can hold against us.

81 posted on 02/08/2015 6:43:15 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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