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Christ's Work of Redemption is Finished, Not Continuing
In Plain Site ^ | Feburary 7,2015 | James G. McCarthy

Posted on 02/08/2015 3:28:55 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: terycarl
Could you please tell me where you got your copy and can you show me that those darned Catholics had nothing to do with it...I certainly wouldn't want any of my dollars going to Rome......gasp!!

To the contrary....you prove to me where catholics wrote it.

I find nothing in my Greek NT or my NASB Bible that says this was penned by, Paul a Roman Catholic Church member. Nor is there anything like that from Peter, James, or any of the other writers of the Bible.

The rcc officialy recognized their bible at Trent...some 1200 years after the early church had recognized the canon (367, though the bulk of it was in place well before then) as we have it today. Seems like you guys were a bit late to the party!!!

The burden's on you to prove otherwisw.

btw...I don't buy Mary statues or other graven images from the Vatican's website....so none of my $$$$ is going to Rome!

61 posted on 02/08/2015 6:02:11 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: terycarl

Rome had no canon til Trent (an uncomfortable truth)


62 posted on 02/08/2015 6:05:01 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Gamecock
So ... should I believe James G. McCarthy or the BILLIONS of Roman Catholics? Ahh, a Argumentum ad populum! Using that as your criteria perhaps you should become a Muslim! There are quite a few of them too!

That hole that you showed....I had NO IDEA that Martin Luther was a well driller....amazing!!

63 posted on 02/08/2015 6:06:18 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Theodore R.; .45 Long Colt
>>Sounds like you're saying the American people are too confused to think clearly.<<

They did elect Obola...twice. Need I say more?

64 posted on 02/08/2015 6:06:29 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: cilbupeR_eerF

“Yes, the work of redemption was finished at Calvary, but God’s Omnipresent nature makes the event of the crucifixion a present reality. And not only a reality but a present and continuing work.”

No. Paul does not see Christ as crucified today.
No. The crucifixion is not a present reality today.
No. The crucifixion is not a continuing work.

“But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool.”

Hebrews 10:12,13


65 posted on 02/08/2015 6:07:19 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Resettozero; Arthur McGowan
You seem certain of the mind of Satan. That’s odd.

Why is that odd to you...when you are Catholic and 100% right...it is easy to recognize Satan/100% wrong...See how easy it is??

66 posted on 02/08/2015 6:13:15 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: Arthur McGowan
"Satan, who hates us and does not want us to grow in grace, promotes the notion of “once-saved-always-saved” and other doctrines that destroy people’s understanding that they need to GROW in grace and holiness."

John 10
27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and the Father are one."

In one passage, Christ identifies those who are His, identifies that His gift is eternal life, states that they will never perish, says no one can take them away from Him, backs it up with the Omnipotence of the Father and bases it on his own identity as God.

"The idea that we do NOT grow in holiness, but that God merely lies to himself, and proclaims filthy sinners to be “saved,” is a Satanic idea."

We grow as Christians. Positionally, when we come to entrust ourselves to Christ for eternal life, we are no longer sinners. The debt has been paid utterly. Our nature as sinners has changed and we are baptized into Christ. His righteousness becomes the believers. On earth, as long as we have the life of Adam in us, we commit sins. The believer also has a new nature. Positionally, the believer is seated in the heavenlies with Christ. I refer you to Ephesians. A wonderful book.

You post as if you do not know or understand the wonderful grace of God, not the meaning of salvation, nor the cross.

67 posted on 02/08/2015 6:15:50 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: cilbupeR_eerF
Yes, the work of redemption was finished at Calvary, but God’s Omnipresent nature makes the event of the crucifixion a present reality. And not only a reality but a present and continuing work.

Christ was sacrificed once for all...and then He sat down at the right hand of the father..HIS WORK COMPLETED

See because God was omniscient He knew who that sacrifice was for and marked their debt PAID IN FULL on Calvary

68 posted on 02/08/2015 6:18:17 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: terycarl

The Catholic Church hadn’t been established at that tine.


69 posted on 02/08/2015 6:20:38 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: avenir
If the Living God could use Pharoah, He could use the Catholic Church. I’ll thank HIM, then, for HIS Scriptures...not you.

WELCOME HOME!!!!!!! Of course God used the Catholic church...no Catholic in history has EVER denied that...but the Catholics did the grunt work...wrote, hand copied, edited, salvaged, transcribed, protected, whatever...so that you could have a 100% accurate version of His book....at least acknowledge that they assisted God in His efforts to make you a Christian.....sheesh.

70 posted on 02/08/2015 6:21:51 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl

**I had NO IDEA that Martin Luther was a well driller**

He wasn’t. But Satan has one for Roman Catholics.


71 posted on 02/08/2015 6:22:35 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
They did not know the term Roman Catholic because it hadn’t been coined yet.

You were secretagent man from the time of your conception...your parents didn't coin the word until after you were born but that changed nothing....the name Roman Catholic was not coined at their conception, nor was secretagentman coined at yours....neither FACT changes anything

72 posted on 02/08/2015 6:27:11 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: T. P. Pole; impactplayer
Where does the resurrection fit in all this? That happened after it was “finished.” Is it not a part of this all?

Prophesied in the Old Testament, but it was prophesied, as well, in a sense, in the new, in John chapter 2 verse 19. "Jesus said this, 'Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.'"Jesus as prophet

The resurrection of Christ from the dead was a declaration of the Sonship of Christ.

Primarily what the resurrection proved was THE COMPLETION of the work of Christ and stamps "it is finished " with an exclamation point..1 Cor .."If Christ is not risen, then our faith is in vain. We are yet in our sins, and we are of all men most miserable."

So on Easter Sunday..we do not celebrate an incomplete salvation ...but a complete one

73 posted on 02/08/2015 6:31:27 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: ealgeone
To the contrary....you prove to me where catholics wrote it. I find nothing in my Greek NT or my NASB Bible that says this was penned by, Paul a Roman Catholic Church member. Nor is there anything like that from Peter, James, or any of the other writers of the Bible.

You don't understand...I'm trying to find the Bible that Catholics didn't write...I don't have to prove that they did write....I don't want that....I want to see a Bible that you can prove they DIDN'T write

You know how we can't stand their viewpoint...

74 posted on 02/08/2015 6:31:59 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl

The Green’s interlinear bible has the best set of the original manuscripts that can be attained by us common folk. His commentary is not quite right on them however. It’s a lot of work....


75 posted on 02/08/2015 6:32:10 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Theodore R.; CynicalBear

Not just Americans, but countless billions through the centuries. I know I shouldn’t be surprised “For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.” (Matthew 7:13)

Also, no one finds the Lord by thinking clearly. Salvation is of the Lord. It’s a matter of grace. Natural, unregenerate men can’t understand spiritual matters because they are dead in trespasses and sins. The Bible says, “The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:14). God has to regenerate a man and remove the scales from his eyes before he can begin to spiritually discern truth.

I know a lady, an educated lady, who was baptized as a girl and had been active in church for sixty years. Her husband served as a foreign missionary and she had been a choir member and Sunday School teacher. A few years ago during a service she was finally saved. Of course all of her friends and family believed she had been saved all along, but she knew she had never been saved at all. She says heard the gospel for the very first time that day. Of course she had heard and read the words many times before. And she had shared them with others. But that day it was different because she heard it at the heart level and knew God was at work.


76 posted on 02/08/2015 6:32:23 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: Resettozero

You really think so?


77 posted on 02/08/2015 6:35:01 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl
Nope...the burden's on you for this. The rcc only recognized their bible at Trent in the 1500s. Not sure what they were operating under prior to that.

The Christian church had their Bible long before that.

78 posted on 02/08/2015 6:35:55 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: RnMomof7
Rome had no canon til Trent (an uncomfortable truth)

Yeah, they barely existed before 1545...all those silly Cathedrals, Popes, Basilicas, libraries,Monastaries, HAND COPIED BIBLES, it wasn't until Father Luther came along that we got things right...PATHETIC

79 posted on 02/08/2015 6:37:13 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: CynicalBear
They did elect Obola...twice. Need I say more?

Nope. Case dismissed.....

80 posted on 02/08/2015 6:37:54 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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