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Christ's Work of Redemption is Finished, Not Continuing
In Plain Site ^ | Feburary 7,2015 | James G. McCarthy

Posted on 02/08/2015 3:28:55 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: terycarl

So Tery...

Are your above popes listed going to HELL or not?


161 posted on 02/09/2015 3:35:34 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CASchack

Why don’t CATHOLICS ever get called out for bickering?


162 posted on 02/09/2015 3:36:54 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Why do you think it is that when someone needs an exorcism, nobody says, “Hey! Let’s call a Presbyterian minister!”

Uh; they don't advertise or brag?

163 posted on 02/09/2015 3:39:01 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cvengr; IWONDR; Normandy; teppe; WilliamRobert

The Greek word TETELESTAI.

Not to be confused with the MORMON word: Telestial.


HEAVEN-The Mormon church teaches there are three levels of heaven (three "degrees of glory"):

Celestial - for Mormons who have kept ALL of the laws and ordinances of their church.
Terrestrial - for religious people who aren't Mormons and for Mormons who have not met the requirements of the Church.
Telestial - where unbelievers go
 
 

164 posted on 02/09/2015 3:41:40 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock

All roads lead to Rome...


165 posted on 02/09/2015 3:45:11 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

bttt


166 posted on 02/09/2015 3:51:33 AM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Jeff Chandler

Jeff, I didn’t either. I’m an ex-Protestant who was brought to the Catholic Church by Bible reading, especially through the sixth chapter of the Gospel of John and the first chapter of the Acts of the Apostles.


167 posted on 02/09/2015 4:23:34 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: .45 Long Colt
Despite the clear teaching of Scripture, Rome has an “unbloody sacrifice.” They say it’s a propitiatory sacrifice, but the Bible says without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. So not only is it unnecessary to sacrifice Christ again and again, but an unbloody sacrifice is worthless to make atonement for sin. An unbloody sacrifice is no sacrifice at all!

That's a keeper and I am.

There are also these questions that remain unanswered...

Which body is it participating in the sacrifice of?

His old body that died and was buried?

Or His new resurrected body?

168 posted on 02/09/2015 5:59:51 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: terycarl; Mark17; Roman_War_Criminal; MamaB; avenir; Secret Agent Man; ealgeone; ...
I believe the Bible over anything Catholics say.

WOW...so do I...where on Earth can I get such a book and who brought us this book through the centuries since it was written?????? Oh, wait a minute...it was those darned Catholics.........sigh.

And so even if it was true that RCs wrote the Bible - which it is not as they manifestly were not RCs - the logical argument is what? That we are to assent to the instruments and stewards of Holy Writ? If that is not it, then what import does this assertion have, which we often see 😩

And if knowing what the Bible consists of is so critical, then why did RCs not know for sure what the entire canon consisted of until after Luther's death, unless an infallible magisterium is not essential for that, contrary to what RCs say. And if personal interpretation of Scripture is to be censored they way it often is by RCs toward Prots, then why have hardly any texts been infallibly interpreted by Rome, or an official unchanging commentary on Scripture been provided, leaving RCs a great deal of library instead to interpret Scripture within the parameters of RC teaching

And do you agree with the bishops choice of the NAB was the Bible for America? If not, must you engage in interpretation to know what is right, while telling us to look to your One True Church® for sure guidance? Or what class of teaching is that restricted to that does not require you to engage in interpretation of what they are or mean

169 posted on 02/09/2015 6:03:37 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

Placemarker


170 posted on 02/09/2015 6:30:12 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Arthur McGowan

Every time a religious leader is called “father” and does not correct the one who said it, glory and honor are usurped from our Father in Heaven.


171 posted on 02/09/2015 6:33:34 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Mark17
LOL, there you go again. Others have told you it wasn't those darned catholics,

It is one thing to acknowledge the role of the Catholic church, both the Roman and EOs, in preserving the text of the Bible, but it is another thing to assert the authors were Catholic, and or that even being the instruments and stewards of Holy Writ renders them the infallible interpreters of it, or otherwise of possessing ensured perpetual superior veracity.

It is one thing to love your church, 💒, and another to ascribe an attribute of deity to it, above that which is written. 😦

172 posted on 02/09/2015 6:39:03 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Arthur McGowan

I doubt they are taught Arthur. If they were there wouldn’t by so many following those weak priests who still offer blood sacrifices daily.


173 posted on 02/09/2015 7:02:49 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: RnMomof7
Rome had no canon til Trent (an uncomfortable truth)

If you meant no infallible, indisputable canon, then that is true .

174 posted on 02/09/2015 7:06:01 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
And so even if it was true that RCs wrote the Bible—which it is not as they manifestly were not RCs—the logical argument is what? That we are to assent to the instruments and stewards of Holy Writ?

Recalls this from Jesus:

"So you also, when you have done all that you were commanded, say, ‘We are unworthy servants; we have only done what was our duty.’”—Luke 17:10

A good antidote for seeking praise from men. We have only done our DUTY.

175 posted on 02/09/2015 7:23:48 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: cilbupeR_eerF; Roman_War_Criminal; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; ...
Again, we see the OMIPRESENCE of God at work. With God there is no past or future. The Apostle Paul proclaimed “I AM crucified with Christ.” Similarly, in 1Cor 2:2, Paul proclaims that the Crucified Christ is the image in his mind.

Of course with God there is no past or future, but Divine revelation relates to us in this real of time, and uses the term "eternal/everlasting" in distinction to it. And thus use God inhabiting eternity to justify a one time event as happening continually makes a mockery of Divine revelation, and the Lord's supper, which itself has a time limit.

Consistent with your recourse, ever event from creation to the birth of Christ to His second coming as well as the Lord's supper will be literally taking place for ever.

Instead, the Lord's supper is a commemoration of the Lord's death in which the church is to remember how the Lord's body was broken and His sinless blood poured out for them as a body, and which sacrifice the elements represent, and thus declare/proclaim His death for the body of Christ by manifesting that caring love for each other as being part of that blood-bought body in sharing food during that actual communal meal.

Which is what the only detailed description of it in the life of the church teaches . (1Cor. 11:20-34) And thus by going ahead and eating while others had none, shaming them that had not and were hungry, then the apostle said they were not actually coming together to eat the Lord's supper, but their own. Thus they were to come to fill their belly, but to effectually recognize each other as being part of that body for whom Christ died, which is the body that was the focus here, and in the next chapters.

176 posted on 02/09/2015 7:37:17 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: avenir
A good antidote for seeking praise from men. We have only done our DUTY.

Indeed. As unprofitable servants.

177 posted on 02/09/2015 8:13:50 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Petrosius

Interesting - “It is finished” was the battle cry of a field general as he declared victory at the completion of the battle. And as I read it, Jesus refused the wine at the cross. The fourth cup is the cup of redemption, and he did not drink of it until after the resurrection.

At least, that’s the way I read it.

Thanks,


178 posted on 02/09/2015 9:13:30 AM PST by impactplayer
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To: Elsie
Uh; they don't advertise or brag?

Jesus said: Let your light shine before men.

Why don't you take the words of Jesus seriously?

180 posted on 02/09/2015 9:41:11 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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