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To: CynicalBear

But God warned of false prophets and promised ONE truth through all time, we call this Petrine authority based on the guidance of the Holy Spirit through apostolic succession.

“Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.”

The Apostles Creed:

“I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth; and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord: Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary; suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried. He descended into hell; the third day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Holy Catholic Church, the communion of Saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. Amen.”


215 posted on 02/07/2015 7:19:57 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
>>we call this Petrine authority<<

No Petrine authority found in scripture.

224 posted on 02/07/2015 8:04:47 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Steelfish
. . . the Holy Catholic Church . . .

The word "catholic" was not in the original Roman Creed. This was added much later,

There was no "catholic" universal visible church until many years later, about the time of Augustine, who was seriously brain-challenged in trying to deal with the impurity of the visible church. Clearly, it's even worse and blatant today than it was then.

The idea of "catholic" was a device originating from the "patristcs" who brought the sense of it over from their training in Platonic philosophy. It is not a Biblical concept taught by the personal disciples of Jesus Christ.

"Catholicism" is a device created by religious leaders in tune with secular ones to create and solidify the reins of power over the local, independent, autonomous assemblies by using a state-approved unifying organization such that the religious power over the entire population of a realm could be placed at the disposal of the secular ruling powers, whose allegiance is ultimately to the god of this world, who is the prince of the power of the air.

227 posted on 02/07/2015 8:31:48 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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