Posted on 02/05/2015 9:29:51 AM PST by RnMomof7
Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.Peace,
I am afraid I do not know why you addressed this to me.
Your comment on King Henry in post #59 was what got my attention. The original statement wasn’t that Henry was some great guy, but that through him Tyndale’s prayer was answered.
Peace,
SR
Your comment on King Henry in post #59 was what got my attention. The original statement wasn’t that Henry was some great guy, but that through him Tyndale’s prayer was answered.
Peace,
SR
It appears to me to be an out-of-context garbled quote from Tyndale, which after some careful editing was put into Luther's mouth...although if memory serves there was possibly some frustration expressed by Luther in some other manner in regards to some of the 'biblical' arguments which arose, after the great many had more direct access to the Scriptures, themselves.
“You should never believe everything you read on the Internet.”
Abraham Lincoln
Sounds plausible. Thanks. :)
“Imprisoned God’s Word in the Latin language.” I suppose dishonesty doesn’t really matter when your attacking Rome.”
Now that’s rich since very few common folks of the time read Latin. Oh yeah Latin was mostly for the rich folks such as rich money donors. Then you have the loss of translation accuracy when you go from Greek to Latin to Native language. It’s bad enough going from Greek to Native language, but add a third language for no reason and it gets all jacked up. Oh I love how you put catholic saint preaching in their native language, but how dare they be able to read the Scripture for themselves. Your denomination doesn’t teach IAW Scripture anyways, so what does it matter. It’s all about the catechism and tradition right? Funny how the COT made some salvation changing tradition changes, but you still claim that it came from the Apostles. Read your own history and you will realize that you have been boondoggled.
Nor should you believe everything that the Catholic Church teaches, but believe everything that the Holy Scripture teaches.
Oh yes, “Saint” Luther. Such a wonderful person. lol. Here are some charming Luther quotes:”Their synagogues ... should be set on fire.”
“Their homes should be broken down and destroyed. They ought to be put under one roof or in a stable, like Gypsies, in order that they may realize that they ... are ... but miserable captives.”
“They should be deprived of their prayerbooks and Talmuds.”
“Their rabbis must be forbidden under threat of death to teach any more.”
“What shall we Christians do now with this depraved and damned people of the Jews? ... I will give my faithful advice: First, that one should set fire to their synagogues. . . . Then that one should also break down and destroy their houses. . . . That one should drive them out the country.”
Here are some of his charming views on women:
“Even though they grow weary and wear themselves out with child- bearing, it does not matter; let them go on bearing children till they die, that is what they are there for.
“The word and works of God is quite clear, that women were made either to be wives or prostitutes.”
And, those quotes are just the tip of the iceberg. Luther was a bigoted , misogynistic, horrible little man. He was no Christian.
He lived in an anti-Semitic society and you’re judging him by the standards of today. I could easily find another 20 very prominent people in history that were deeply flawed. That does little or nothing to their contributions to society. And surprisingly, you don’t get to judge who is and who isn’t a Christian. Nice try, though.
That is why I use the Bible as my guide, not sinful men. It is offensive to hear of people glorifying Luther, Calvin & other wicked men. They were no saints, not even close.
~James 4:11
That’s ironic, considering how the Protestants on FR take every opportunity to judge Catholics & tell them how they are going to Hell. Yes, I realize that in those days that people were ignorant about women & Jews. Those comments prove, though, that Luther was very flawed & wasn’t as holy as people today make him out to be. BTW, I wasn’t slandering, those quotes came straight from Luther. There are also “Church Fathers” who have pretty offensive, sinful views.
Point out to me where I have ever “judged” Catholics (which would be ironic since my wife is one) anywhere here going back to the day I joined in 2006. I’ll wait. And where, exactly, did I say that Martin Luther was “holy?”
Men had replaced God in the church with political maneuvering. It was no longer the church of Christ, it was the church of man.
Why bring RabbitGate into this?
Oh, wait. You didn't. That portion was quoted from someone's (I don't know who's) now-deleted comment.
So, my mistake. Carry on, as you were...
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