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To: ebb tide

Frankly, no pun intended, it doesn’t bother me. In fact, I would rather see what bishops had to say, and who was faithful, and who wasn’t. I don’t like the notion of back room deals, etc. I like free and open proceedings, and transparent communications.

If the Pope said it was OK to publish preliminary, mid-term, etc. findings, fine by me.

What is REALLY important, to me, at least, is what is actually taught, and what is in the final report.

I don’t see a Jesuit conspiracy behind every Dominican, nor do I put much credibility in the Rorate Caeli.

Some people don’t care for Pope Francis, some do. Some prefer Pope Benedict, etc. It is our duty to pray for the Pope, and all clergy, and religious. It is our duty to believe the Ordinary Magisterium. Nothing that Pope Francis has actually said, in context, has gone against Church teaching. Rather, he often cites the CCC, as well as Papal documents such as Humana Vitae.

Regardless, I think there is real style issue, and people are reacting to it. In my opinion, and in some cases, the reactions are over the top.


35 posted on 01/30/2015 6:07:19 PM PST by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo
What is REALLY important, to me, at least, is what is actually taught, and what is in the final report.

You seem to miss the point. There was a final report and that report contained heresy regarding the sacrament of marriage.

36 posted on 01/30/2015 8:06:45 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: SpirituTuo
Nothing that Pope Francis has actually said, in context, has gone against Church teaching.

Oh yeah?

“That’s why, for me, sin is not a stain I need to clean.”

"The Church officially recognizes that the People of Israel continue to be the Chosen People. Nowhere does it say: ‘You lost the game, now it is our turn.’ It is a recognition of the People of Israel.”

“I also think with affection of those Muslim immigrants who this evening begin the fast of Ramadan, which I trust will bear abundant spiritual fruit.”

“I do not approach the relationship in order to proselytize, or convert the atheist; I respect him… nor would I say that his life is condemned, because I am convinced that I do not have the right to make a judgment about the honesty of that person… every man is the image of God, whether he is a believer or not. For that reason alone everyone has a series of virtues, qualities, and a greatness of his own.”

“Sharing our experience in carrying that cross, to expel the illness within our hearts, which embitters our life: it is important that you do this in your meetings. Those that are Christian, with the Bible, and those that are Muslim, with the Quran. The faith that your parents instilled in you will always help you move on.”

37 posted on 01/30/2015 8:39:02 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: SpirituTuo
It is our duty to believe the Ordinary Magisterium.

Which one? The pre-VCII Magisterium or the post-VCII Magisterium?

38 posted on 01/30/2015 9:42:30 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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