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To: Stingray

Matthew 27:51-53 does not record any living people being taken up into the clouds.

So that has not happened yet.

Can you face the fact yet that full preterism is easily proved heresy, as we just did ?

I did not change topics, I was responding to full preterist views.

Much of what is mistakenly viewed today as “end times” prophecy did indeed occur in AD 70, and that knowledge has been handed down throughout the years, but many today are ignorant of it. However, the Day of the Lord, or Day of Judgement, is an essential part of Biblical doctrine.


122 posted on 01/30/2015 9:40:22 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (Repent !)
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To: PieterCasparzen

“Can you face the fact yet that full preterism is easily proved heresy, as we just did ?”

Not at all. You’ve demonstrated nothing.


123 posted on 01/30/2015 9:42:03 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

“However, the Day of the Lord, or Day of Judgement, is an essential part of Biblical doctrine.”

And if you look at all of those “Day of the Lord” passages, you will notice at least two things about them:

1. There was more than one “day of the Lord” in ancient history, according to the OT, because every “day of the Lord” was associated with God’s judgment on a nation. Further, IN EVERY CASE BUT ONE, God used human agents to execute His judgments: the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, and - finally - the Romans. The only exception to this was Noah’s Flood, where God used nature to destroy all but a few people and animals.

2. Virtually all of the prophets foretelling of God’s judgment used the same apocalyptic, hyperbolic, language intended to impress upon their hearers/readers what a frightful fate it was to be judged by God. Suns darkening, stars falling, mountains moving are all images intended to convey social, economic, and cultural upheavals that would attend such judgment events.

If the stars are literally going to “fall from the sky”, which way will they fall? Will the sun supernova before it goes dark?

This inability to understand such language as symbolic is why those in the church are commonly referred to as “hicks”, “Bible-thumpers”, “anti-science” and “anti-reason.” Between mainline denominations that teach a literal interpretation of these signs, and dangerous cults that build entire movements around them, there’s little wonder that people on the outside looking in at the church just keep walking by.


126 posted on 01/31/2015 1:14:18 AM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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