[PapaBear3625]

I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. -- 1 Timothy 2:12

[Morgana]

Hey it’s their own fault, Henry left the one true church because he wanted a divorce. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[Mastador1]

I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. -- 1 Timothy 2:12

Clearly, Timothy was never married. : )

[Trapped Behind Enemy Lines]

Timothy also states clergy can be married:

“A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach.”

1 Timothy 3:2

[SIRTRIS]

The argument against 1Tim 2:12 & even Eps 2:11-15 is “IN Christ there is no male or female” Gal 3:28. Peter’s vision in acts 10 to justify innovations which seemed illicit, but which were spirit led. Also first female apostle in the NT named Junia in Rom 16:7. Also...

Abigail is the only Bible woman I know who went against her husband’s wishes because what he wanted was “dangerous”. Other Bible women disobeyed rulers. (The NT says we need to obey governing authorities but this is not emphasized nearly as much as wifely submission.)

“Several holy women went against authority figures, disobeyed laws and disregarded the wishes of their own husbands. Shiphrah and Puah disobeyed Pharaoh’s command, and God blessed them for their disobedience (Exodus 1:15-21).

Rebekah and Abigail went against their husband’s wishes. There is no hint of censure against Rebekah in the Bible (Genesis 27:1-28:2); and Abigail was commended for her wise and brave actions (1 Samuel 25). Queen Esther, in order to save the Jewish people, disobeyed a law and risked her life by coming into her husband’s presence without being summoned (Esther 4:11; 5:1).” And even though Sarah is put forward as an example of wifely submission she didn’t submit to Abraham’s wishes to keep Ishmael