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No I don’t have it down pat. That’s why I have so many questions. And it is by no means intended to be an inquisition. Your response: “The Son, the second Person of the Trinity, left the body He temporarily inhabited on Earth, but His divine nature did not die, nor could it,” gives me something to ponder. It was necessary for Christ to suffer these things and enter into His glory, but maybe it was sufficient for Christ to die in his human form to redeem us from our sins.

I did answer your question about Psalm 22. You said please explain. After offering suggestions, I concluded by saying I don’t know. As to who He was talking to, I have given that some thought in the past. Was it to the Father, to the crowd, to anyone? Maybe in His humanity He was just crying out in anguish. I really don’t know that answer, either.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “It was necessary for Christ to suffer these things and enter into His glory, but maybe it was sufficient for Christ to die in his human form to redeem us from our sins.” <<

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Not just sufficient, but mandatory.

Only a kinsman can redeem us!

He gave up the spirit of God at the cross before he died.

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[metmom]

It was necessary for Christ to suffer these things and enter into His glory, but maybe it was sufficient for Christ to die in his human form to redeem us from our sins.

Absolutely and the reason why is that since Jesus was sinless, then death could not hold Him. He could conquer it and thereby give us life.

Consider this. Something I read today from Tozer.

Jesus didn't come to earth to show us what God is like but to show us what a perfect man is like. He demonstrated what a perfect sinless life before God looked like.

And, yes, He did show us what God is like because everything He did was the Father working through Him. So whatever Jesus did and said and was, is what God does and says and is.

[metmom]

As to who He was talking to, I have given that some thought in the past. Was it to the Father, to the crowd, to anyone? Maybe in His humanity He was just crying out in anguish. I really don’t know that answer, either.

There is teaching that since the Hebrew Bible didn't have chapter and verse references, people would direct a person's attention to a certain passage of Scripture by quoting some of it.

That passage directed everyone who heard it to Psalm 22 which is a Messianic psalm. He was telling them that it was about Him and what they were seeing was the prophecy being fulfilled before their very eyes.