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To: don-o; Iscool
Iscool:When Jesus talked to Thomas, Jesus didn't have any blood...And his flesh was not as our human flesh...

don-o:And you know that how?

1 Corinthians 15:35-55 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?” You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain. But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body.

For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory.

So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven.

I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.

For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:

“Death is swallowed up in victory.” “O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?”

So tell us, is the body we have now capable of walking through walls and appearing and disappearing on command?

525 posted on 01/25/2015 5:57:33 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

Bancroft writes,

“The union of two natures in one person is necessary to constitute Jesus Christ a proper mediator between man and God. His twofold nature gives Him fellowship with both parties, since it involves an ‘equal dignity with God’ and at the same time ‘perfect sympathy with man’:

Hebrews 2:17-18
Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.

Hebrews 4:15-16
For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

This twofold nature, moreover, enables Him to present to both God and man proper terms of reconciliation. Being man, He can make atonement for man; being God, His atonement has infinite value.”

As man, He knows experientially what you’re going through and as God, He can get you through it.


527 posted on 01/25/2015 6:04:57 PM PST by caww
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To: metmom

Interesting...

Webster, the 19th-century statesman, once dined in Boston with several eminent literary figures... Soon the conversation turned to Christianity.... Webster, a convinced Christian, confessed his belief in Christ and His atoning work.... A Unitarian minister at the table responded,.... “Mr. Webster, can you comprehend how Jesus Christ could be both God and Man?”

“No, sir, I cannot understand it,” replied Webster, “and I would be ashamed to acknowledge Christ as my Saviour if I could comprehend it.... He could be no greater than myself, and such is my conviction of accountability to God, my sense of sinfulness before Him, and my knowledge of my own incapacity to recover myself,... that I feel I need a superhuman Saviour.”

Martin Luther was forced to admit that the union could not be explained..

“Reason cannot comprehend this. But we believer it; and this is also the testimony of Scripture: that Christ is true God and that He also became a man.”

It’s been said the Christian should not be troubled by the presence of mystery in his faith... Wherever God and man meet, there is mystery. ....We should accept the doctrine of the unique God-man in the same way that we accept the Trinity— ‘by faith in God’s Word’, the Bible.


530 posted on 01/25/2015 6:09:56 PM PST by caww
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To: metmom
That Scripture is not doing what I guess you are thinking it does. We are given no details, but our common sense tells us that Thomas met and handled someone who looked like Jesus and Jesus assured that it was indeed Himself. Thomas simply exclaimed "My Lord and my God!" Not, "Lord, You don't feel quite as solid as you were before. What's different?"

That passage from Corinthians does not show that the resurrected Jesus was bloodless. I've never even thought of such a thing until it was posted upthread.

561 posted on 01/25/2015 7:04:04 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: metmom; Iscool

That does answer that question doesn’t it.


643 posted on 01/26/2015 6:52:38 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: metmom
So tell us, is the body we have now capable of walking through walls and appearing and disappearing on command?

Not yet....on the other hand, most of us aren't dead yet...

899 posted on 01/26/2015 8:47:20 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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