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To: Arthur McGowan
I explain again: The title “Mother of God” has always meant that Mary is the mother of Jesus, and because Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity, who is God, and Mary is his mother, Mary can be properly called the “Mother of God.”

Absolutely not...The Jesus who now sits at the right hand of God is not Mary's son...

You guys seems to think God was made in our image...

161 posted on 01/25/2015 2:09:00 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool
The Jesus who now sits at the right hand of God is not Mary's son.

At what point did Jesus cease to be the man who was born in Bethlehem and turn into somebody else?

162 posted on 01/25/2015 2:39:15 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Iscool; Arthur McGowan
The Jesus who now sits at the right hand of God is not Mary's son

What are you trying to say?

Jesus is a single Person, with two natures, human and divine. His human nature has been glorified. This doesn't change the fact that Mary gave birth to Jesus in a stable in Bethlehem.

The Church and the Bible tell us that Mary is the "Queen of Heaven."

Jesus is the King of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom, the "Kingdom of God," or Christ's Church.

He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, (Luke 1:32)

These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. (Rev. 3:7)

In the Davidic kingdom, the mother of the king, the Queen Mother, or "Gebirah," enjoyed an exalted position, above that of the wives of the king. She sat on a throne at the right hand of Solomon.

When Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, the king stood up to meet her, bowed down to her and sat down on his throne. He had a throne brought for the king’s mother, and she sat down at his right hand. (1 Kings 2:19)

Mary is the mother of the King of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom. She is the Queen Mother of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom, or the "Kingdom of God." (The Ark, which contained the manna, Aaron's staff, and the decalogue, was a type for Mary, who held within her womb "the bread of life," the eternal High Priest, and the Eternal Word.)

Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm. A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.” (Rev 11:19-12:1-5)

164 posted on 01/25/2015 2:44:51 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Iscool; Arthur McGowan
The Jesus who now sits at the right hand of God is not Mary's son...

If that is true, then you are dead in your sins because Jesus of Nazareth has disappeared. This is serious business. And this has been dealt with in the past. Please consider that herein lies the necessity of understanding what exactly was (and still is) at stake with the Seven Ecumenical Councils.

There are sites that are neither Catholic nor Orthodox that will show what the deal was in establishing Christian doctrine against the attacks of the enemy.

171 posted on 01/25/2015 3:24:52 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Iscool; deputytess; Arthur McGowan
The Jesus who now sits at the right hand of God is not Mary's son

So how was Jesus delivered? Cesarean? Did Jesus not live in Mary's womb? Was Jesus not born of a woman?

If you're going to thump your Bible, you should at least read it.

Jesus is both Heavenly Father's and Mary's son. He announces so himself on the cross.

Does anybody still read the Bible or do they just stake out a position and support it with a snippet?

270 posted on 01/25/2015 6:23:55 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Iscool

good point

Is Mary all that different than old Testament prophets? They fulfilled their assigned roles and went right back to being ordinary and often sinful humans. Plenty of them displeased God later on. At least Mary didn’t do that. But many have basically turned her into a Goddess and that is wrong.


328 posted on 01/25/2015 9:35:38 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Iscool

Bingo...


351 posted on 01/25/2015 10:32:17 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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