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To: .45 Long Colt

You have a very selective reading process!

Our future salvation at the mighty trump of God is not a get out of hell free joy ride.

If it were, Hebrews 6 would not have been written!

Nor would John’s first epistle.

Without Torah written on out heart, there is no salvation possible. This has absolutely nothing to do with temple sacrifices; they were a type of Yeshua’s death, not of believers’ lives. That strawman has been beaten to a pulp.

Selective reading of the epistles is an element of strong delusion.

Why do you suppose Paul praised the Corinthians for their keeping of the ordinances in chapter 11?

Or do your eyes glide over words like that? Are they visible only to a select few? the NT is chock full of such words that churchians somehow fail to see.

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56 posted on 01/16/2015 11:30:39 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Whatever. I’m unwilling to spend the day going back and forth. Say what you will, believe as you want. I don’t need agreement or approval. I get involved in these discussions for the sake of the gospel. God will use the truth as He sees fit.

When I say the Bible clearly teaches that salvation is by grace through faith, and not by works, I am able to back it up with explicit Scripture. I can post scores of passages to back up what I say. You said your point was clearly stated in the Bible, yet even after I asked you for references, you failed to back it up whatsoever.

It’s instructive to remember John 6:29 where Jesus tells us the only WORK which men must do to be saved... “Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”

You’ve got a lot of Scripture to explain away if salvation isn’t a free gift (by “grace alone”) without works. Below I’ve posted a mere fraction to get you started.

(Romans 3:20-28) “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
{21} But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
{22} Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
{23} For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
{24} Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
{25} Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
{26} To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
{27} Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
{28} Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”

(Romans 5:18-19) “Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
{19} For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.”

(Romans 6:23) “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

(Romans 11:6) “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.”

(1 Corinthians 4:7) “For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?”

(1 Corinthians 15:10) “But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.”

(Galatians 2:16) “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

(Galatians 2:21) “I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.”

(Ephesians 2:8-9) “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
{9} Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

(2 Timothy 1:9) “Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,”


61 posted on 01/16/2015 12:10:36 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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