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That was a very good post.

"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. He that believeth not shall be condemned."

Jesus tells of two categories here: (1) those who believe and are baptized, and (2) those who don't believe. But some people claim to see a third: (3) those who believe but aren't baptized. Well, Jesus apparently didn't know about this third category.

Y'know, if the CEO of Lexus Corp. announced, "He that sends in an application and is baptized shall receive a new Lexus," there would be a mad rush to the water! People can understand there are two conditions to be met, not just one.

Thanks!

A new Lexus would be nice. Even a slightly used one!

But, now I must head for the 18 wheeler, and say goodbye to the weekend.

Jesus tells of two categories here: (1) those who believe and are baptized, and (2) those who don't believe. But some people claim to see a third: (3) those who believe but aren't baptized. Well, Jesus apparently didn't know about this third category.

Here's the 3rd...

Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

Filled with the Holy Ghost before water baptism...Saved...Born again...

The question is: why did they get water baptized after they were already filled with the Holy Ghost???

Many of us have read the very same scriptures posted, many times...Yet we have a different view than you have...

What I have found over the years is when a person sides with one doctrine or another, he/she will seek out scripture to bolster that doctrine...

Trouble is, they are not giving God a chance to present ALL the evidence for a particular doctrine when they avoid or chuck aside scripture that doesn't line up with their chosen doctrine...