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To: CynicalBear
Your comment: “I might at that when you mention someone in a post it is common courtesy to ping that person.”

You are right I should have pinged you.

You have the right to believe whatever you want (God gave us all free will to do so). However, just because it is your interpretation or opinion of the Bible (Or from other individuals)does not make it truthful.

I do feel that you ignore and reject the words of Jesus in John.

• John 6: 47-71
53Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.

I did offer a detailed logical reply to the mosaic law regarding the eating of meat and blood that you seem to ignore. Just because you use other words of the Bible does not change the words or meaning of Christ's words. Again you just completely ignore the words of Christ who initiated a New Covenant and concluded the Old Covenant.

I also believe that you (and others) have hatred in your heart toward the Catholic Church and her teachings. Your comment: “Not the corrupted teachings of the Catholic Church.”

Again you do not accept the words of Jesus in founding His Church.
Matthew 16
17Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood* has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. 18k And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church,* and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. 19l I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven.* Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven

Then you claim (your statement): “It's the Catholic Church who admits it's simply their opinion that Mary was assumed into heaven. They have no proof from scripture yet it's a major belief in the Catholic Church”

Part of your problem is that you feel the world and the church stopped from dealing with any issues unless written in a 2000 year old Bible. Again Jesus addressed this and delegated His authority to the Catholic Church (of course, you reject the words of Jesus again).

Matthew 28 16f The eleven* disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had ordered them. 17* When they saw him, they worshiped, but they doubted. 18* g Then Jesus approached and said to them, “All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19h Go, therefore,* and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, 20i teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.* And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.”

So God gave the Catholic Church the role to teach and baptize what Jesus has taught. It is the Holy Spirit that inspires the Church in her teachings and God would not be part of any erroneous teachings in His name.

Since you do not believe in the Assumption of the Blessed Mother, I will post a lengthy article on that subject.

I do feel that you do not have an open mind to look at the facts presented or willing to understand the Faith of members of the Catholic Church.

206 posted on 01/18/2015 8:13:47 AM PST by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM
>>However, just because it is your interpretation or opinion of the Bible<<

Interpretation? Opinion? Direct words from scripture do not require opinion or interpretation. God said don't eat the blood. The disciples reiterated the prohibition against eating blood. Christ told us His words were spirit not physical flesh and blood.

>>So God gave the Catholic Church the role to teach and baptize what Jesus has taught.<<

No, He didn't. He gave that to individuals and told the apostles to make disciples of "all the nations" therefore all who are baptists are disciples not just some select few. The apostles told us that we all have the same Spirit just as they did and that no distinction was made between us and them.

Acts 15:8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He made no distinction between us and them, for he cleansed their hearts through faith.

>>It is the Holy Spirit that inspires the Church in her teachings<<

God sent the Holy Spirit to each and every one of us who has faith in Christ alone.

1 John 2:27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.

The lies of the Catholic Church that people need them to interpret is not from God but from the enemy of God. The Holy Spirit through the apostles told us clearly that it was He who would be our counsellor and guide. It is the ekklesia of those individual believers are the "pillar and foundation" of truth. That means they uphold the truths taught by the apostles and do not add to it.

>>I do feel that you do not have an open mind to look at the facts presented or willing to understand the Faith of members of the Catholic Church.<<

Oh I do have an open mind to look at the facts as presented in scripture. It's what causes me to reject the teachings of the Catholic Church as false and paganistic. I am quite willing to understand the faith of the members of the Catholic Church as well. They have cult like faith in the Catholic Church and it's extra scriptural beliefs just like Mormons and Muslims have in theirs. Their faith is place in the Magisterium rather than in Christ alone.

207 posted on 01/18/2015 9:22:21 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ADSUM
So God gave the Catholic Church the role to teach and baptize what Jesus has taught.

Nope...Wrong church...God gave that role to the church which does not call any of it's clergy Father...
God gave that role to the church which does not prevent it's clergy from marrying or eating meat...
In fact, God gave that role to the church where all the bishops and elders are married with children...
God gave that role to the church that is based on the Gospel of the Grace of God (Eph. 2:8,9)...

You got the wrong Church...God condemns YOUR Church in the very scriptures that your Church claims it wrote and preserved...What a hoot!!!

208 posted on 01/18/2015 9:45:54 AM PST by Iscool
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To: ADSUM

“It is the Holy Spirit that inspires the Church in her teachings and God would not be part of any erroneous teachings in His name.”

You really need to read your Bible as there are many upon many examples of God allowing the Israelite’s to sin and go wrong.

Your right he wouldn’t be part of it and he’s not, but he’s sure allowing it in your Church! The biggest threat to the world is global warming while Christians heads are being cut off are you kidding me.

The Book of Revelation would be a very good read for you as you would notice that there are several Church’s that will be dealt with according to their sin.

Church of Thratyra describes the Church of Rome perfectly.


221 posted on 01/18/2015 10:57:21 PM PST by mrobisr
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To: ADSUM

“Part of your problem is that you feel the world and the church stopped from deaing with any issues unless written in a 2000 year old Bible.”

And there we have it folks the old out of date Bible, The Word of God is outdated!!! Nothing more needs to be said.

Hebrews 13:8 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)

8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.


222 posted on 01/18/2015 11:08:04 PM PST by mrobisr
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