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To: CynicalBear

**It appears you are trying to be cute by half and it’s not working for you.**

So you don’t answer the questions, just use the ol’ Alinsky spin tactic.

**I think you need to restudy all those verses again and look closely at the Greek words and their intent.**

I think you’ve got a lot of baptizing in the name of Jesus in Acts, but you seem to deny it’s water baptism, and that it’s done in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins.

So, the Etheopian eunuch saw water, but it was just a mirage. Earlier in Samaria, Philip baptized in the name of Jesus (Acts 8:12-16)

Paul was told to arise and be baptized, calling on the name of the Lord (Hmm, and that name is?), but in your opinion that was not water baptism. But, for some reason he needed to arise (arise? hmm, that sounds like ‘works’/sar).

Without delay, Peter baptized the household of Cornelius after seeing and hearing them be filled wioth the Holy Ghost.

In Acts 11 we find Peter back in Jerusalem, after the conversion event at Cornelius’ house in Caesarea. Answering to those that questioned his hanging out with the Gentiles, he told of them receiving the Holy Ghost. With God giving them the Spirit, his hand was forced to obey God’s ordained plan, and baptize them in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins. Notice his testamony at that point:

“Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; WHAT WAS I, THAT I COULD WITHSTAND GOD?”.

God expected Peter to do HIS part, and baptise them in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission sins. Peter HAD to do it, for it was required by God.

Under your ‘no works’ opinion, you folks seem to believe that after the Spirit is given, nothing else is required. In which case, Peter had NOTHING to withstand. But there was, he could have refused to baptize them, but knew he couldn’t withstand God’s command.

Paul and Silas baptized the keeper of the prison and his household. You may say that is referring to Spirit baptism. I say it is water baptism, and possibly both.

Paul rebaptized certain disciples in Ephesus. It doesn’t look like they delayed it for “When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus”. Acts 19:5

The devil hates Acts 2:38. It seems that lots of people do as well.


154 posted on 01/17/2015 11:00:16 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel
>>and that it’s done in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins.<<

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for (εἰς) the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

εἰς - Part of Speech: Preposition (aka not a verb) - (indicating the point reached or entered, of place, time, fig. purpose, result)

Baptism does NOT cause an action it is only a visible sign of and action that has already taken place. The forgiveness of sin happened before the baptising.

I have never said people should not be baptised. We are told to make a public acknowledgement of our confession for which baptism is one. All of your words do not change the fact that the word "for" is a preposition not a verb.

161 posted on 01/17/2015 11:50:58 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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