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To: avenir

I understand your point. but you have to understand that my comment, respectfully, was intended to point out the truth to Catholics, not Protestants.

But just so we are clear, when I say that this was the “Protestantization” of the Mass, I intended that to mean that where the Tridentine Mass has always been clearly understood (up until Vatican II) as a re-creation of the Sacrifice on the Cross (the resurrection was never mentioned), the Protestant version of the Mass (Thomas Cranmer) rejected the sacrificial aspect of the Mass. In order to placate this thinking, the Paul VI added in the part about the resurrection, and hence, create anew the so-called Pascal Mystery. Now we have a “Eucharistic Celebration”.

Unquestionably Jesus must “ever live”, but to complete your argument (which I respectfully disagree), you might as well throw in the Ascension as well, since that is where He went. The Catholic Holy Sacrifice of the Mass was not established to satisfy the teaching of Luther, Cranmer or any other Protestant; it was established to fulfill what Jesus asked us to do, namely “Do This in Remembrance of Me”. He was speaking about the Bloody Sacrifice that He was about to endure, and He was asking us to witness the unbloodied re-creation of that Sacrifice.


42 posted on 01/05/2015 9:19:37 AM PST by tomsbartoo (St Pius X watch over us)
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To: tomsbartoo

Thank you for your explanation. Hope your day is a good one!


49 posted on 01/05/2015 10:12:11 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: tomsbartoo; CynicalBear; boatbums; Iscool; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww; daniel1212; ...
He was speaking about the Bloody Sacrifice that He was about to endure, and He was asking us to witness the unbloodied re-creation of that Sacrifice.

Every man his own pope with his own personal interpretation of Catholic doctrine. If He was talking about an unbloodied sacrifice, then why did Jesus give them the cup to drink? Why would He establish an unbloodied sacrifice to remember when it was a bloody sacrifice He made?

Without the shedding of blood, there is NO forgiveness of sin. A sacrifice without blood is USELESS.

And an unbloodied sacrifice is just ritual murder.

156 posted on 01/05/2015 7:13:09 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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