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Do We All Believe in the Same God?
Frontpage Mag ^ | 12/23/2014 | Dr. Stephen M. Kirby

Posted on 12/23/2014 7:31:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

>>>Scripture tells us of many instances of people rendering worship to false idols.

Mosque minaret call to prayers 5x a day directing prayers to the Kaaba. Hopefully they can locate Allah with a good compass!


21 posted on 12/23/2014 8:34:44 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: TexasGator

>> Since there is only one God, we must all believe in the same God

Not so. Not even close.

Yes, there IS only one GOD, Yahweh, Creator of heaven and earth.

But there are countless little-g false gods worshipped by ignorant or disobedient men.

Don’t kid yourself that those who worship false gods are “really” worshipping Yahweh without knowing it! Eternal damnation awaits those who worship false gods.


22 posted on 12/23/2014 8:35:27 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed is his demon.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We all believe in God, and in Satan; the difference is which side we have chosen. Jews and Christians worship and support God.


23 posted on 12/23/2014 8:36:03 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Nervous Tick

John 1:18

No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father’s side, he has made him known.

1 John 4:1

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.


24 posted on 12/23/2014 8:43:04 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: CynicalBear
oh yeah... I wonder who is pulling the best stealth strategy! My default to Islams game plan on the "People of the Book" is Surat Al-Mā'idah (The Table Spread) 5:51 per Yusuf Ali rending of their Allah's own words "O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. (http://quran.com/5/51) What's after this? The war strategy of deception in 3:28, al-Taqiyya Only, the islamist understand deception is with the tongue & not the heart!!
25 posted on 12/23/2014 8:46:30 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: TexasGator

Exodus 20 King James Version (KJV)

20 And God spake all these words, saying,

2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


26 posted on 12/23/2014 8:51:25 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed is his demon.)
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To: TexasGator
You did not comprehend what the article is saying. The point is that the "Moon God of the Quaresh Tribe", Allah is most certainly not the God of the Bible. It is a different god that makes demands like the following:

1. Slay the Christians and Jews wherever you find them...lay for them every ambush
2. Jews are descended from monkeys and pigs
3. The world must submit to Islam

27 posted on 12/23/2014 9:04:49 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: a fool in paradise

great point!


28 posted on 12/23/2014 9:05:35 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am God there is no other. At the beginning I foretell the outcome; in advance, things not yet done. I say that my plan shall stand. I accomplish my every purpose. Yes, I have spoken, I will accomplish it; I have planned it and I will do it. Listen to me you fainthearted, you who seem far from the victory of justice: I am bringing on my justice, it is not far off, my salvation shall not tarry; I will put salvation within Zion, and give my glory to Israel (Isaiah 46:12ff).


29 posted on 12/23/2014 9:26:08 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind

Mohammedans worship satan. Once you realize this, everything makes sense.


30 posted on 12/23/2014 9:37:38 AM PST by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.

Jeremiah 7:8-10New American Standard Bible (NASB)

8 “Behold, you are trusting in deceptive words to no avail. 9 Will you steal, murder, and commit adultery and swear falsely, and offer sacrifices to Baal and walk after other gods that you have not known, 10 then come and stand before Me in this house, which is called by My name, and say, ‘We are delivered!’—that you may do all these abominations?


31 posted on 12/23/2014 9:41:33 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Kolokotronis
"Allah" is the Arabic word for God.

"Al-lah" translates to English as "the god".

32 posted on 12/23/2014 10:44:39 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TexasRepublic

The difference is the God we serve is the God of the Bible as HE wants to be known...otherwise it is “something else” being worshipped.


33 posted on 12/23/2014 10:47:11 AM PST by caww
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To: TexasRepublic
""Al-lah" translates to English as "the god"" So does Ο θεος, but trust me on this one, in English it means God, the One we worship. If your preacher knows Greek, ask him. Better yet, go to the nearest Antiochian Orthodox parish and ask the priest there, though I expect that as a Texan you wouldn't likely believe what some Arab Christian priest told you about his Faith. I mean, after all, what would he know?
34 posted on 12/23/2014 11:07:17 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis

“though I expect that as a Texan you wouldn’t likely believe what some Arab Christian priest told you about his Faith. I mean, after all, what would he know?”

That’s an odd, condescending comment. What do you really know about Texans?

I said nothing about Greek. My information about “Al-lah” translating from Arabic to English as “the god” comes from an Iranian woman. When she speaks in English of the muslim deity, she says “the god”. Example: “I will see you tomorrow, if the god wills it”. I believe what she says, I am certain she knows more about that subject than I do.


35 posted on 12/23/2014 12:09:55 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: caww

No argument there!


36 posted on 12/23/2014 12:10:39 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Kolokotronis
Antiochian Orthodox Christian Divine Liturgy

Very interesting I have heard this before. Can you lay out some of the liturgy here with an interpretation? I would be very interested to see how it flows. Thanks if you can or want to.

Mohammedanism on the other hand, is a Judeo/Christian heresy and like all heresies, it is a bitter, deadly weed in Creation. The attributes of "Allah" as described by Mohammedanism are consequently false, demonic and ultimately deadly, but "Allah" is in fact the very God, Ο ΩΝ, whom we worship.

Now that was an excellent explanation in less than a paragragh. Thanks for that.

37 posted on 12/23/2014 12:22:51 PM PST by redleghunter (... we have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God-Heb 4:14)
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To: redleghunter

Here’s a link to You Tube for the Divine Liturgy at St. George Antiochian church in Montreal. It’s where we worship when we are in Montreal. It’s a wonderful, loving parish with a fabulous priest. In this you will hear English, Greek, French & Arabic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RXTERGu0Do


38 posted on 12/23/2014 12:34:32 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: TexasRepublic
"I said nothing about Greek. My information about “Al-lah” translating from Arabic to English as “the god” comes from an Iranian woman. When she speaks in English of the muslim deity, she says “the god”. Example: “I will see you tomorrow, if the god wills it”. I believe what she says, I am certain she knows more about that subject than I do." In Greek "Ο" means "the" "θεος" means "God", thus "the God", the same as in Arabic. The perceived problem is with the English translation, not the Arabic original. Someone reading the NT or the Septuagint in the original Greek would read, literally translated into English, "the God" (or "the god", capitals having no meaning in koine Greek). "That’s an odd, condescending comment." Condescending, yes; odd, in light of your comment, no.
39 posted on 12/23/2014 12:43:53 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Kolokotronis
Sorry!

"I said nothing about Greek. My information about “Al-lah” translating from Arabic to English as “the god” comes from an Iranian woman. When she speaks in English of the muslim deity, she says “the god”. Example: “I will see you tomorrow, if the god wills it”. I believe what she says, I am certain she knows more about that subject than I do."

In Greek "Ο" means "the" "θεος" means "God", thus "the God", the same as in Arabic. The perceived problem is with the English translation, not the Arabic original. Someone reading the NT or the Septuagint in the original Greek would read, literally translated into English, "the God" (or "the god", capitals having no meaning in koine Greek).

"That’s an odd, condescending comment."

Condescending, yes; odd, in light of your comment, no.

40 posted on 12/23/2014 12:47:20 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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