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To: pastorbillrandles
I would say that because he was not concieved of the seed of man, He was without original sin.

Pastor Bill, could you please clarify your use of "seed of man"? I do not know if you mean seed of a male, seed of a female, or seed of a human. And "of" in English is a very ambiguous term. Could you indicate which more precise Greek preposition we would be talking about here?

I am not ducking this issue at all. I just need to have a very narrow and precise definition of what you stated.

Also, Adam and Eve were both initially without original sin. Though we do not know for sure just what process The Godhead used to form Adam or Eve, still all their progeny were conceived by the combination of haploid gametes all of which had to pass on sinfulness and death to each next generation.

Mary then of herself was not able to create a male individual nor to pass on eternal life using any cell or gamete generated by her cellular constitution. Some of these facts were not known by theologians of the past ages who went beyond their knowledge base and were not willing to humble themselves in this matter and say with Daniel, "It has not been given to me to know."

Thanks!

12 posted on 12/19/2014 4:37:37 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

I mean simply that Christ was not born the usual way, through the transmission of a male seed, into a female womb.I suppose the prepositon ‘Ek’ would be in order(I am no greek expert), but Christ didn’t come out from a man, He came forth from of OLD, from Everlasting-(Micah 5). The MAn Jesus CHrist had no human father, but Mary was his mother-


15 posted on 12/19/2014 6:40:41 AM PST by pastorbillrandles (The choice isn't heaven or Hell. its heaven or the world)
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To: imardmd1
Best wishes for a merry Christmas...but please answer my comment about the debatable point of angels breeding with humans.

The Book of Enoch--revered at the time of Christ...found in the Dead Sea Scrolls--addressed this issue rather clearly.

Referenced by Jude and quite powerful at the time of Christ.

Are you saying Gen 6 is some luke warm chat about the sons of Seth?

22 posted on 12/19/2014 4:28:43 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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