What a load of bovine excrement, AGAIN. You imply AGAIN something which is not based on any proof, just supposition and TRADITIONS of the Roman horde. Paul wrote and spoke the same things.
The ministerial offices were established as a result of the preaching of the apostles prior to the writing of the New Testament.
It sure seems important for the Catholics to justify that which cannot be justified within Scripture. They bend and assert what they want it to mean, regardless of the actual writings. It's all a house built on sand, but surely displayed with lots of gold and jewels to fool those trusting in such!
Trust should be placed on the Word of God, not some groupthink which establishes a cult such as the Roman Catholics apparently has become.
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... Paul’s salvation is our pattern for this dispensation, so the Holy Spirit tells us to follow Paul as he follows Christ (1 Corinthians 11:1; cf. 1 Corinthians 4:16; Ephesians 5:1; Philippians 3:17; 1 Thessalonians 1:6). There is no command to follow Peter, James, or John in the Bible. Why? Remember, Paul is “the apostle of the Gentiles” (Romans 11:13; Romans 15:16; 2 Timothy 1:11). Remember, James, Peter, and John were apostles of Israel (Matthew 10:5-7; Matthew 19:27,28; Galatians 2:9).
When the nation Israel asked the Apostle Peter, “What must we do to be saved?,” notice Peter’s answer: “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost” (Acts 2:38; cf. Acts 3:19). However, when the Philippian jailor asked Paul and Silas, “What must I do to be saved?,” notice what Paul and Silas declared: “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house” (Acts 16:31). Obviously, these are not the same message. Peter told people to repent and then get water baptized, so they could receive forgiveness of sins and receive the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul simply taught that salvation comes by “believing on [trusting] the Lord Jesus Christ,” without preaching water baptism or repentance. If words mean anything, Peter and Paul preached two separate Gospels.
Confusion abounds when we mix the nation Israel with the Church the Body of Christ. We must “rightly divide” the Bible, separating Law from Grace (Romans 6:14-15), the prophetic program (Acts 3:21) from the mystery program (Romans 16:25-26a), just as the Apostle Paul instructed Timothy: “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15 KJV). (Another verse that modern English versions pollute.) All of the Bible is for us, but not all the Bible is to us or about us. Paul’s epistles, Romans through Philemon, have direct application to us; the rest of the Bible involves the nation Israel and her prophetic program. We cannot take Israel’s verses as though they were ours. ... excerpted
Great response from a Christian!
You imply AGAIN something which is not based on any proof, just supposition and TRADITIONS of the Roman horde. Paul wrote and spoke the same things.
Actually Paul spoke more than what he wrote. His letters are to communities who have already evangelized and established. The establishment of the ministerial offices was the result of his preaching, not his writing.
Petrosius: The ministerial offices were established as a result of the preaching of the apostles prior to the writing of the New Testament.
WVKayaker: It sure seems important for the Catholics to justify that which cannot be justified within Scripture. They bend and assert what they want it to mean, regardless of the actual writings. It's all a house built on sand, but surely displayed with lots of gold and jewels to fool those trusting in such!
It is clear from the Bible that these offices were already in existence prior to Paul's letters to these communities. His mention of these offices in a few letters does not imply something new. Indeed, the office of deacon existed even before Paul's conversion.
Trust should be placed on the Word of God, not some groupthink which establishes a cult such as the Roman Catholics apparently has become.
I do trust the Word of God. That is why I am a Catholic. What I do not trust is your private interpretation of the Word of God. Perhaps you should take another look at your reliance on Protestant groupthink.
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A silly and desperate attempt to avoid the full truth of the Gospel.