“Plain meaning” is not necessarily literal meaning.”
We will disagree. The only thing is actual meaning, which involves more than isolated, translated words.
“In contrast, when Jesus says “this bread is my body” there is not allegory present: he adds “do this” in Luke 22:19 and is John 6”
I thought we set this aside until you post a thread on the passage? If you want to discuss it, post it.
“Likewise in James 2 there is nothing allegorical: several historical persons are mentioned with their works and their faith, the fact that faith is “dead” without works is asserted, and a direct statement is made “Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?” This is not allegorical speech, except perhaps “dead faith” is a metaphor for faith which does not save.”
I thought we decided to set this aside until you post a thread about it??
“This goes beyond the thread topic and would require a whole thread of its own to examine”
“That is because when a Protestant faces these scriptural facts his method is to offer megabytes of obfuscatory pseudo-reasoning to bury the scriptural fact in. No it does nto require a whole thread. The Holy Spirit expressed these two ideas in a few easy to understand sentences. The Eucharist is Christ’s body. We are not saved by faith alone. Scriptural facts.”
I understand you are a Roman Catholic and must believe what you’ve been taught. You have no choice. Please realize that hundreds of millions of Christians, who have no such limitation, disagree:
1. that the Lord’s Supper is actually Christ’s body.
2. that salvation hinges on works.
3. that your Scriptural facts are accurate and not just opinions.
Best.
PS - at least you didn’t dig up Luther and bring him into the conversation.
I thought we set this aside until you post a thread on the passage? Why jump from thread to thread? You don't believe the Holy Scripture -- this is a free country. Believe what you will.
hundreds of millions of Christians, who have no such limitation, disagree
Well, of course they disagree. What Christ taught is a difficult doctrine. Most people prefer inventing some easy theology and call that their gospel. Luther was not the first to do so and he won't be the last. But they all will be dust, and the Church lead by the Holy Ghost, will be just fine.
Any faith that doesn’t result in works is a dead faith
Precisely. So therefore we are not saved by faith alone.
Lord Jesus,
May Thy Holy Eucharist bring us to everlasting life.
Merry Christmas!