[daniel1212]

There is so much stuff written by catholics they cannot keep it straight.

What things?

And yet as evidenced here, they claim their teachings have never changed. Baloney!

More accurately, as with “stipulated “unanimous consent” of the fathers, she defines what change means. Thus the trad RC sects,

[ealgeone]

I’ve bookmarked those links. That’s good stuff. I dare any catholic to read and come away feeling good about what they’ve been told.