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Pope Francis says all dogs go to heaven? Not so fast
CRUX ^ | 12/13/2014 | David Gibson

Posted on 12/13/2014 10:44:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind

When Pope Francis recently sought to comfort a distraught boy whose dog had died, the pontiff took the sort of pastoral approach he is famous for — telling the youngster not to worry, that he would one day see his pet in heaven.

“Paradise is open to all of God’s creatures,” Francis said reassuringly.

It was a sparkling moment on a rainy November day, and the setting in St. Peter’s Square only burnished Francis’ reputation as a kindly “people’s pope.” The story naturally lit up social media, became instant promotional material for vegetarians and animal rights groups, and on Friday even made it to the front page of The New York Times.

There’s only one problem: apparently none of it ever happened.

Yes, a version of that quotation was uttered by a pope, but it was said decades ago by Paul VI, who died in 1978. There is no evidence that Francis repeated the words during his public audience on Nov. 26, as has been widely reported, nor was there was a boy mourning his dead dog.

So how could such a fable so quickly become taken as fact?

Part of the answer may be the topic of the pope’s talk to the crowd that day, which centered on the End Times and the transformation of all creation into a “new heaven” and a “new earth.” Citing St. Paul in the New Testament, Francis said that is not “the annihilation of the cosmos and of everything around us, but the bringing of all things into the fullness of being.”

The trail of digital bread crumbs then appears to lead to an Italian news report that extended Francis’ discussion of a renewed creation to the question of whether animals too will go to heaven.

“One day we will see our pets in the eternity of Christ,” the report quoted Paul VI as telling a disconsolate boy years ago.

The story was titled, somewhat misleadingly: “Paradise for animals? The Pope doesn’t rule it out.” It wasn’t clear which pope the writer meant, however.

The next day, Nov. 27, a story in the Italian daily Corriere della Sera by veteran Vaticanista Gian Guido Vecchi pushed the headline further: “The Pope and pets: “Paradise is open to all creatures.”

Vecchi faithfully recounted the pope’s talk about a new creation, and also cited Paul VI’s remark.

But the headline put those words in Francis’ mouth, and that became the story.

The Italian version of the Huffington Post picked it up next and ran an article quoting Francis as saying “We will go to heaven with the animals” and contending that the pope was quoting St. Paul – not Pope Paul – as making that statement to console a boy who lost his dog. (That story, by the way, is nowhere in the Bible.)

The urban legend became unstoppable a week later when it was translated into English and picked up by the British press,which cited St. Paul as saying that “One day we will see our animals again in (the) eternity of Christ,” while it has Francis adding the phrase: “Paradise is open to all God’s creatures.”

Fueling the meme was the fact that Francis was photographed accepting a gift of two donkeys from a company promoting the use of donkey milk for infants allergic to cow’s milk – and Francis said his own mother gave him donkey’s milk as a baby.

Social media and other media outlets then picked up the story, further conflating the statements and the chronology. It became a hot mess of a story that was also sparking another theological debate by a pope who was known for prompting controversy.

When The New York Times went with the story, along with input from ethicists and theologians, it became gospel truth.

Television programs discussed the pope’s theological breakthrough, news outlets created photo galleries of popes with cute animals, and others used it as a jumping off point to discuss what other religions think about animals and the afterlife. At America magazine, the Rev. James Martin wrote an essay discussing the theological implications of Francis’ statements and what level of authority they may have. It was all very interesting and illuminating, but based on a misunderstanding.

A number of factors probably contributed to this journalistic train wreck:

In most accounts, Francis’ comments were also set against statements by his predecessor, Benedict XVI, who insisted that animals did not have souls. That apparent contrast fit a common narrative pitting the more conservative Benedict against the ostensibly liberal Francis.

That may be true in some areas, but probably not when it comes to animals.

Adding insult to injury, the Times article cited St. John Paul II as saying in 1990 that animals have souls and are “as near to God as men are.” But that, too, was a misquote, as media critic Dawn Eden explained at the website GetReligion.

On the other hand, there should have been warnings signs: Francis has frowned at the modern tendency to favor pets over people, and he has criticized the vast amounts of money spent by wealthy societies on animals even as children go hungry.

In addition, the pope’s huge popularity has led to at least one other instance of myth-making: news reports last year said that Francis was sneaking out of the Vatican at night to feed the homeless around Rome.

The pope personally debunked that rumor in an interview last March, saying the idea “has never crossed my mind” and that “depicting the pope to be a sort of superman, a type of star, seems offensive to me.”

Maybe he’ll have to give another interview to deflate this latest story, and to offer his real thoughts on pets and paradise.


TOPICS: Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: dogs; heaven; popefrancis
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1 posted on 12/13/2014 10:44:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The Rev Al Sharpton says there’s a ‘hood in Heaven. If so, Pit Bulls will be there.


2 posted on 12/13/2014 10:47:04 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: SeekAndFind
while it has Francis adding the phrase: “Paradise is open to all God’s creatures.”

That's close enough to understand that Francis believes animals go to heaven...

3 posted on 12/13/2014 10:52:02 AM PST by Iscool (e)
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To: SeekAndFind

This article is the result of dogged research, along with going through some dog-eared documents. I’ll bet the journalist was dog tired when he finished, considering that all the other outlets have been barking up the wrong tree.


4 posted on 12/13/2014 10:52:21 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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5 posted on 12/13/2014 10:54:23 AM PST by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box than 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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To: SeekAndFind

OK. The left and the media really wants this pope to be a liberal, and it is willing to distort his words to turn him into a liberal.


6 posted on 12/13/2014 10:54:38 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Are there people with full time jobs following the Pope with bags and verbal Pooper Scoopers... Poper Scopers...


7 posted on 12/13/2014 10:57:26 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

But, the pope that gave us Vatican II said it?

I’m *shocked*.


8 posted on 12/13/2014 11:02:33 AM PST by piusv
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To: SeekAndFind

St Anselm sated that whatever you wanted would be in heaven as long as it didn’t go against God’s will.


9 posted on 12/13/2014 11:08:59 AM PST by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: Brother Cracker; JoeProBono
JoeProBono lives?

ok, that's not *quite* his style when he adjusted color spectrums in various ways, but he does come to mind.

He left of his own accord.

Too many hard-heads here willing to be cruel in their words with one another? Not enough that "get it" and then comment? Too many short comments...too many long ones? I dunno, but he was fairly well Pro enough with use of images.

I miss the images he would post here. They would often convey unspoken commentary -- which I thought I could grasp,and appreciated the point of view, even when once or twice may have been critical of myself/something I had said, a position discussed, whatever...

Dog with clouds/wild neon blue yonder ---- and the creature cleans up after itself...

What of cows? Do they get to go? (Are we thankful they do not yet fly>?

This next is admittedly, not heavenly in the same sense as dogs going to heaven (which is a nice thought), but to make dairy cattle fly, guide ye internets grazing tool contraption to http://www.cowabduction.com/ punch the cow (if you can!) and stand back, just in case...

10 posted on 12/13/2014 11:19:05 AM PST by BlueDragon (I could see sound,love,and the soundsetme Free,but youwerenot listening,so could not see)
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To: SeekAndFind

If my dog isn’t there, it ain’t heaven.


11 posted on 12/13/2014 11:22:59 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: RichardMoore
St Anselm sated that whatever you wanted would be in heaven as long as it didn’t go against God’s will.

Will there be any freight trains in Heaven?


12 posted on 12/13/2014 11:25:56 AM PST by BlueDragon (I could see sound,love,and the soundsetme Free,but youwerenot listening,so could not see)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are ample Biblical sources for the contention that creatures other than man have a spirit and that they too have hope beyond pain, suffering and death, to which they were subjected due to the Fall, not due to any sin of their own.


13 posted on 12/13/2014 11:26:00 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: SeekAndFind

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7....,,,,,all good doggies go to heaven...


14 posted on 12/13/2014 11:27:35 AM PST by ALASKA (Disgusted.....)
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To: BlueDragon

Your guess is as good as mine


15 posted on 12/13/2014 11:32:48 AM PST by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: RichardMoore

That’s the problem with listening to other people about theology.

Where men are involved there will always be error. The more men, the more error.

There is no requirement for intermediaries between a soul and God.


16 posted on 12/13/2014 11:37:30 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: RichardMoore
St Anselm stated that whatever you wanted would be in heaven as long as it didn’t go against God’s will.

St. Anselm was no slouch.

17 posted on 12/13/2014 12:00:42 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: SeekAndFind
I haven't seen any Biblical passages that say yes or no to animals in Heaven. Jesus tells us we will no longer be married to our Earthly spouse(s) which makes sense. While the mortal self would like to think their pet(s) would be reunited with them, I really don't care because I believe that Heaven will be as advertised - so wonderful to be in that I won't care...

If I had to tell a child one way or the other, i would tend to tell the possible fib that they will be reunited. If wrong, no harm done because they won't care once they get to Heaven. If correct, no damage done. To tell the child that no pets will be in Heaven may make it less likely that the child will be saved by turning himself over to Jesus's care.

18 posted on 12/13/2014 12:12:30 PM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Colton Burpo, who talked about his near death experience of going to Heaven in the book Heaven Is For Real, said he saw dogs when he was there and that's good enough for me.

Heaven with no dogs? Seriously? I can imagine it would be much of a heaven with no dogs.

19 posted on 12/13/2014 12:37:12 PM PST by GBA (Ashes to ashes or dust to dust, it's all about the "to".)
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To: GBA

Typo correction: “I can’t imagine it would be much of a heaven with no dogs.”


20 posted on 12/13/2014 12:38:48 PM PST by GBA (Ashes to ashes or dust to dust, it's all about the "to".)
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