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To: Morgana

they do not take birth control because they know they should not have premarital sex... but they are weak, and so they have unprotected sex, which sometimes results in pregnancy... they do not want to lose face and admit to their fellow Christians that they sin and have premarital sex, so they try to hide it by aborting the pregnancy... some Christians end up having multiple abortions... i used to be a counselor at the local Crisis Pregnancy Center...


4 posted on 12/08/2014 4:18:26 PM PST by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: latina4dubya

Thanks - I was thinking of the shame of having a baby out-of-wedlock. Can also see the point on the availability of birth control.

A friend of ours bought their high-school aged boys boxes of condoms when they reached a certain age (16 or 17??) so they would have them available. I perhaps can see her point, but to me that seems a little too much like condoning the behaviour.

So far we have not had any problems with our kids. The “screw up and reap the consequences” discussions, with numerous examples from the news, stupid TV shows, and kids they know at school seems to be working well (that goes for drugs and booze too). That, and they really are good kids.

We have also made the point of using good examples of people that have made mistakes, but still having the baby and either putting it up for adoption to a loving family, or figuring out how to keep the baby. But, we also stress, especially in the case of my son, for so many things (driving, screwing around late at night, shooting, drinking, sex, etc.) - all it takes is ONE instance of stupidity and your life can be changed forever. Hopefully his acts of stupidity will be as full of grace as mine were when I was that young! (I have told him that as well - not sure how I’m still alive.)


21 posted on 12/08/2014 4:49:24 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: latina4dubya

Those who take birth control are as likely to have abortions, because birth control requires discipline, too. The commonality is the lack of discipline owing to the lack of shame in having sex. There is in fact more shame at being a virgin.The mene is that virginity is abnormal.


25 posted on 12/08/2014 4:58:57 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: latina4dubya
". . . they do not take birth control because they know they should not have premarital sex..."

What garbage. 95% plus of the people who have an abortion were using some form of contraception, the vast majority taking oral contraceptives in fact, and it failed them. People who don't give a damn about killing children with "contraceptives" don't give a damn about killing them with invasive measures either.

That's the bottom line in spite of all the BS people spew to excuse their behavior.

Protestant and Protestant derived Christian doctrines eventually rationalize whatever society accepts and the "Catholics" who rationalize their way around Church Doctrine are nothing but Protestants who don't leave the Church physically in spite of leaving it spiritually.

Most U.S. "Christians" accept only one doctrine; thou shalt rationalize going along to get along.

26 posted on 12/08/2014 5:01:04 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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