[Mrs. Don-o]

I designed and presented a Lives of the Saints class for 11 weeks this past summer in my parish. It's hard to choose just a few from so many, but we did just 11 saints, from Irenaeus (2nd century) to John Henry Newman (19th century).

I was particularly interested in how they dealt with controversy, either within their own closest religious communities, or when dealing with erroneous movements like the Gnostics, the Donatists, and so forth.

I was looking for rational, patient, persistent approaches. I was looking for balanced people able to be reasoned with; strong for the truth; humble enough to be corrected. I found them!

One could write a History of the Catholic Churh based on crimes, just as one could write a History of the United States of America based on crimes. It would be stirring for those who enjoy the thrill of moral indignation; it would also be biased in a deeply damaging way. But I found it very restoring in mind, heartm, and spirit, to read history based on saints who, like Christ, were truly full of mercy, and would rather suffer than inflict suffering.

[Resettozero]

None of what you posted addressed what I posted.

Honest communication between you and me on FR just cannot happen with circumstances as they are now.

Please, no more attempts at this. Please?